Issue 74512 - Logarithmic Scale: Default Value vs Log
Summary: Logarithmic Scale: Default Value vs Log
Status: CLOSED WONT_FIX
Alias: None
Product: General
Classification: Code
Component: chart (show other issues)
Version: 3.3.0 or older (OOo)
Hardware: All All
: P4 Trivial with 1 vote (vote)
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Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
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Keywords: needmoreinfo
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Reported: 2007-02-13 22:08 UTC by discoleo
Modified: 2017-05-20 10:04 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Issue Type: FEATURE
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Chart Example using this Feature (33.00 KB, image/jpeg)
2007-02-18 21:12 UTC, discoleo
no flags Details
Chart Example using this Feature (II) (63.40 KB, image/jpeg)
2007-02-18 21:13 UTC, discoleo
no flags Details

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Description discoleo 2007-02-13 22:08:35 UTC
*Logarithmic Scale* - Display Original Values or the Logarithm Thereof

TARGET
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Chart2 Reimplementation
This feature request should be integrated into the "Scales and Intervals
Specification" (http://specs.openoffice.org/chart/Chart_Scales_and_Intervals.odt)

DESCRIPTION
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When using the logarithmic scale, most often one wishes to display the original
values. However, there are situations when the logarithm is more useful.

REASON
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The logarithmic scale is sometimes used to display wide variations in the values
to be displayed. Such variations may be wide enough to preclude efficient
annotation of the graph. Therefore, the logarithm thereof may be more suitable.
E.g., instead of 1 to 1,000,000,000 one may use 0 to 9.

Sometimes, one wishes to highlight the change in the value, so the logarithm is
more useful (a difference of 1 logarithm step means a change by a factor 10).
This is especially useful in virology (viral load) and in serology (log2).

Some adimensional data or data with non-relevant dimensions may be better
represented by the logarithm, then by the original value. See also e.g. the
following free articles where such graphs occur:
http://www.nature.com/hdy/journal/v93/n6/pdf/6800559a.pdf and
http://www.jneurosci.org/cgi/reprint/25/43/10049 .

IMPELEMNTATION
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1. checkbox: display original value (checked by default)
2. checkbox: display the log
Comment 1 IngridvdM 2007-02-14 11:32:59 UTC
I am not really convinced that this feature is useful. I fear that it may
introduce more irritation. Hm, well. Let's see whether it gets some more
comments or votes.
Comment 2 discoleo 2007-02-18 21:12:24 UTC
Created attachment 43136 [details]
Chart Example using this Feature
Comment 3 discoleo 2007-02-18 21:13:09 UTC
Created attachment 43137 [details]
Chart Example using this Feature (II)
Comment 4 discoleo 2007-02-18 21:21:30 UTC
I have added 2 picture from an article published in the journal "Nature"
depicting this feature.

As stated, this option is often used in academic publishing when dealing with:
 - large variations in the scale
 - need to point out the difference between two values

When wanting to point out the difference between 2 values, the logarithm is much
more useful, because we will have the difference expressed as 1 point, 2 points
or the like (and NOT absolute differences of e.g. 560,000 vs 7,002,500; in this
case the log difference is 1.09, i.e. 5.75 vs 6.85).

One particular field where this is useful is in virology, where viral load is
more accurately represented by the log value: e.g. when measuring the
effectiveness of HIV treatment, we measure the viral load, BUT more important we
need to know the variation in the viral load, and here the logarithm is more
easy to interpret.
Comment 5 Edwin Sharp 2014-03-02 15:25:40 UTC
What software enables this feature?
Comment 6 Edwin Sharp 2014-03-15 16:19:49 UTC
No info from author.