Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla – Issue 76855
Add option to ignore document stored printer setting
Last modified: 2007-08-07 10:28:48 UTC
There should be an option to ignore the printer that is stored within the document if the document is printed via "print file directly" button within the load/save options dialog. ------------------------------- [ ] Ignore document printer settings ------------------------------- Alternatively there can be an option to select if a document will be printed to 'system default printer' ------------------------------- Print button behavior: (*) always use document printer setting ( ) always use system default printer JA->CD: please contact FL regarding the specification details
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cd: Accepted. Must be discussed with mba and as how to implement this enhancement.
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=75342 seems related.
cd->pb: Ask discussed, please take over.
kpalagin: yes, it's related. It's attacking the problem from the other side. This let's me think whether we should unite both enhancements to one. I don't see a reason why anybody that ignores printer settings on loading should be interested to store such settings. I can imagine that this is different the other way around - but I consider this to be of minor interest. So could we make this an "don't load and store printer settings" option?
cd: I am not sure if we should use one option to ignore loading/saving printer options. From my point of view this should be handled separately. One option for loading and another one for storing. cd->fl: What's your opinion. We are short before feature freeze, so we have to decide now what we want to do.
FL: I think we should stay with the current design defined in the spec [1] today. We have not enough space on that tap page to add another option for not saving the printer. On the long run I think we should add a separate dialog, were the user can see and configure in detail what will be loaded and saved with the document. [1] http://specs.openoffice.org/appwide/printing/Load_printer_settings_with_document.odt
Frank, I didn't ask for a second option. Why should anybody ignore printer settings in loading but save them?
JA->MBA: In bigger deployments people would like to control where a document is printed. If a document stored printer setting can be set to be ignored then this can be sufficient.
That's not the point. Please reread: why should anybody want to store printer settings in documents when he explicitly ignores them when he loads them? So I wonder whether we could better have an option "don't load and store printer settings".
FL->MBA: The only problem to handle save and load in a single option for printing is that the current position for this option is the "Load" section. If we would do that we would have to rename that section too. (i.e. "General").
I agree that this makes things more complicated. But given the fact that we solved that - would you agree that it makes sense to have a common option? Or do you think that it is likely(!) that someone doesn't want to load printer settings but wants to store them nevertheless?
In a business environment, for some documents it is usefull to have printer settings loaded, because they have to be printed on special printers. And the settings can only be loaded, when they have been saved before. For documents where printer settings are not needed, in general it makes no sence to have them stored. -> Mba: I can think of other scenario's, but those are far less frequent. Most situations are helped, when there is the choise not to load settings. In a deployment with different printers, loading printer settings that are saved with the document, can often be a burden. (In my experience, word processing in business has most troubles in getting existing documents (templates) print correct on each users printer. I guess this is the reason behind issue 75342, that has also been mentioned at the Dutch users-list.) If one can ignore the settings, it isn't a problem that they have been stored. -> Mba: so combining to a "don't load and store printer settings" option, doesn't have any advantage, IMO.
FL->MBA: I think the do not load option is sufficient and we would not run into the GUI issue with the section named "Load". Furthermore one could "fix" the document printer for a local copy of a document, so that other users will not run into trouble if they try to print that document on the other side of the world.
pb: accepted.
pb: fixed in cws os96. Files changed: /officecfg/registry/schema/org/openoffice/Office/Common.xcs 1.131.44.1 /svtools/inc/svtools/saveopt.hxx 1.2.74.1 /svtools/source/config/saveopt.cxx 1.27.100.1 /svx/inc/optsave.hrc 1.6.888.1 /svx/source/options/optsave.src 1.78.84.1 /svx/source/dialog/optsave.hxx 1.8.436.1 /svx/source/dialog/optsave.cxx 1.16.72.1 /xmloff/source/core/DocumentSettingsContext.cxx 1.24.144.1
pb -> hi: plese verify, thx.
Created attachment 46481 [details] TestCaseSpecification
Verified with cws os96 = ok
*** Issue 78365 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Still ok in 680m225_9196