Issue 78297 - Empty page inserted by style
Summary: Empty page inserted by style
Status: CLOSED DUPLICATE of issue 47111
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: editing (show other issues)
Version: OOo 2.2
Hardware: All All
: P3 Trivial (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: requirements
QA Contact: issues@sw
URL:
Keywords: oooqa
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2007-06-11 12:19 UTC by rbos
Modified: 2013-08-07 14:38 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

See Also:
Issue Type: ENHANCEMENT
Latest Confirmation in: ---
Developer Difficulty: ---


Attachments
The document shows that page 2 is just an empty page (27.38 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2007-06-11 20:50 UTC, rbos
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This document shows what the expected result. It is the same as the document with the name insert_page_prob.odt, but with a manually inserted page break. This manually inserted page break inherits the page style. That is what should happen with a 'rig (25.69 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2007-06-12 11:35 UTC, rbos
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Description rbos 2007-06-11 12:19:55 UTC
In a master document I have set that Heading 1 insert a page break.  This works
almost nicely.  The Heading 1 style inserts a page break with a new style that
has the characteristic that it always starts on the right page (paragraph style
window -> text flow:
[x] insert   type [page]   position [before]
  [x] with page style  [new chapter]  page number [0])

The New Chapter style has "only right" page set.  This works fine when a preceding
chapter ends on a right page, an empty page is inserted and the new chapter
starts on the right page as desired.  The problem is with the empty inserted
page.   The pages preceding the empty page have a header, footer and background
watermark text that are not printed on the empty page.  It seems that the
inserted page does not have a style attached to it.  The workaround that is now
used is to insert a manual page break so there is no need for OO.org to insert
an additional page.  But this is really a workaround not as how one would expect
this feature to work.


See for a discussion about this at the openoffice-users emaillist.  This
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.questions/153836 is a link to 
the beginnin of the (restarted discussion).
Comment 1 michael.ruess 2007-06-11 12:33:10 UTC
Reassigned to ES.
Comment 2 eric.savary 2007-06-11 13:16:05 UTC
Please attach a sample document and indicate where the problem can be found.
Comment 3 rbos 2007-06-11 20:50:43 UTC
Created attachment 45816 [details]
The document shows that page 2 is just an empty page
Comment 4 rbos 2007-06-11 20:53:21 UTC
Information provided, it should be clear with the provided example document
if not please let me know!
Comment 5 eric.savary 2007-06-12 11:06:59 UTC
Well, a "blank page" is a "blank page": no header, no footer no text, nothing on it.
You may turn blank pages off when previewing or printing to pdf using:
- Tools - Options - OOo Writer - Print - [] Print automatically inserted blank pages
OR
- File - Print - Options - [] Print automatically inserted blank pages
OR
- File - Export to PDF... - [] Print automatically inserted blank pages
Comment 6 eric.savary 2007-06-12 11:07:22 UTC
closed
Comment 7 rbos 2007-06-12 11:33:00 UTC
Re-opening the bug report.  Of course the blank page is a blank page, and that is
not what this bug report is about.  The problem is about the insertion of a
blank page instead of inheriting the page style from the preceding page(s).

BTW the solutions that you proposed are not useful, as they do not result in
the expected behaviour, being that a new chapter should always start on the
right (as enforced by the page characteristic 'right only').

Perhaps this is actually an enhancement request and as such the issue type
should be set to "enhancement"?

I'll attach a slighty modified version of the document, that shows what is
expected.


Comment 8 rbos 2007-06-12 11:35:35 UTC
Created attachment 45841 [details]
This document shows what the expected result.  It is the same as the document with the name insert_page_prob.odt, but with a manually inserted page break.  This manually inserted page break inherits the page style.  That is what should happen with a 'rig
Comment 9 eric.savary 2007-06-12 11:48:36 UTC
Ok! ;)
But saying "blank" I was meaning "real blank", exactly without any inherentence
of a style because the page has no content at all (no page umber, watermark or
chapter name).

I just had a look at different "real books" and documentation which always start
a new chapter at the right page and the blank page has nothing on it (no header...).

I agree it's somhow surprising when working on a computer BUT it seems to be the
correct way to display blank pages (with NOTHING on them) in a printed
document/book.

Nonetheless, forwarding as enhancement.
Reassigned
Comment 10 rbos 2007-06-12 12:41:36 UTC
> Ok! ;)

Pfff, fortenately you accept the report.  I'm glad you did!

> But saying "blank" I was meaning "real blank", exactly without any inherentence
> of a style because the page has no content at all (no page umber, watermark or
> chapter name).

> I just had a look at different "real books" and documentation which always start
> a new chapter at the right page and the blank page has nothing on it (no
header...).

> I agree it's somhow surprising when working on a computer BUT it seems to be the
> correct way to display blank pages (with NOTHING on them) in a printed
> document/book.

That might, and I could live with it as well, untill customers started to
ask questions or made remarks about the totally blank/empty page.  After that
I opened this bug report.
 
> Nonetheless, forwarding as enhancement.

Looking forward to have the enhancement around.  I hope it can be impemented.
Thanks for the support!
Comment 11 greyham 2008-05-03 03:59:09 UTC
I have also wanted to be able to control the content of the "blank" pages 
inserted by OpenOffice.org. The confusion arises because the OOo documentation 
refers to these as "blank" pages, rather than "padding" pages. I have often 
seen documents with non-blank padding pages; the classic example is where the 
page actually says "This page intentionally left blank". At present there is no 
way to do this with OOo, execept by inserting the pages manually; which kind of 
defeats the purpose of automatic padding page insertion by assigning a page 
style as "Right Only".
Comment 12 Regina Henschel 2009-04-22 11:15:31 UTC
Please have a look at issue 47111. I think, this issue is duplicate to 47111 and
we need not another one. Issue 47111 has already got some votes and it is more
useful to center on 1 issue. But this issue has got a vote too. You should move
your vote to issue 47111 and then close this issue as duplicate.
Comment 13 rbos 2009-04-22 12:31:51 UTC
Hi Greyham,

you're the one that voted for this issue:
> But this issue has got a vote too. You should move
> your vote to issue 47111 and then close this issue as duplicate.


I have voted on issue 47111 now, as it seems to be same issue indeed.
Comment 14 lohmaier 2009-06-09 12:48:44 UTC
flagging as duplicate.

*** This issue has been marked as a duplicate of 47111 ***
Comment 15 lohmaier 2009-06-09 12:49:03 UTC
..and closing