Issue 80616 - Add "double arrow" and "arrow denied" symbols to math font(s)
Add "double arrow" and "arrow denied" symbols to math font(s)
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 Reported: 2007-08-11 21:19 UTC by galanti 2013-02-07 22:41 UTC (History) 3 users (show) issues lapsap7+ooo rb.henschel ENHANCEMENT --- ---

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 galanti 2007-08-11 21:19:37 UTC ```in math editor missing symbol, for example ---> double arrow (uniform convergence) ---> / / --/-\ arrow denied (not implied) there is only --/--> -/--/ / is there method for put denied only symbol``` Regina Henschel 2007-08-12 01:30:53 UTC ```Because that character is neither in the open symbol font nor in the star symbol font, there is little chance to get it as "build in" symbol. But you can add it as user defined symbol. You find â‡‰ (U+21c9) for example in the lucida sans font, which comes with the JRE. What is the code point for your secong wish? I don't find it in the unicode tables.``` discoleo 2007-08-12 13:14:17 UTC ```Yes, there are a number of signs that are missing. I will add here some signs often used in *chemistry*: 1. Equilibrium: (aka double half arrows for chemical equilibrium) simple: dual arrowheads: A <----> B complete: k1 _____________\ Start ------------- Product \ k2 where k1, k2 are the equilibrium constants (are omitted sometimes) 2. Reaction progression: one of the reaction less likely / unlikely k1 _____________\ Start -------- Product \ k2 especially k2 is omitted See e.g. on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_equilibrium (although the notations there are very basic, yet more than OOo can do) 3. What is also missing are the 'circled-operators': '+', '-', 'x', '*', 'division' inside a circle 4. Greek alphabet would be nice, too It would be practical to have it in the formula editor 5. Broken arrows: (I did NOT find them) ---X--->, ---//--->, ---/---> and the double arrow versions``` discoleo 2007-08-12 13:39:42 UTC ```Well, for an image with equilibrium constants, see: http://goldbook.iupac.org/SVG/C01480-1.png This one uses --> arrows, but half arrows (---`) are also common and sometimes preferred. What I also miss in chemistry-notation is a bigger dot, e.g.: X{dot { }} where the dot is drawn significantly bigger [depicts a radical in chemistry)``` Regina Henschel 2007-08-12 13:44:30 UTC ```@discoleo: Please have a look at the arrow-section in the Lucida Sans font, you will find most of the arrows you need. You get the circled operators with oplus, ominus, odot, otimes, odivides. Please look in the "Formula Reference Tables" section in the help. Math knows more, than available in the Selection Window. You must type it directly into the command window. You get greek characters for example with %delta for lower case and %DELTA for upper case. Really difficult are symbols, which has no unicode code point, the others you can get, if you own a font which has glyphs for them. (You might watch the http://www.stixfonts.org/ project.)``` discoleo 2007-08-12 14:39:44 UTC ```Sorry for the multiple posts, just found more images: see http://goldbook.iupac.org/SVG/F02463.png For various other ideas, see also the complete IUPAC site: http://goldbook.iupac.org/list_images.html``` discoleo 2007-08-12 14:56:45 UTC ``` > Please have a look at the arrow-section in the Lucida Sans font, > you will find most of the arrows you need. Indeed, interesting font. Thanks. Though I still have to complain, that for chemical annotation, you need longer arrows, so that one can write the reaction constants. Also, what are missing are the unequal bi-directional arrows. Please note, these are likely not available as font-glyphs, but the math editor should handle them as well. > You get greek characters for example with %delta for lower case and > %DELTA for upper case. Truly, though I don't understand why the math editor window does not display the Greek letters. It is surely easier to click the Greek 'd' than typing the whole word '%delta'. Greek letters are so extensively used in mathematics, that I have to rumble because this is not yet implemented.``` discoleo 2007-08-12 15:35:38 UTC ```Well, TEX has a wide range of useful additions that are currently lacking in OOo. Just to extend the arrows-issue in chemistry, I append some TEX-elements Table 132: chemarrow Extensible Accents \autoleftarrow{abc}{def} \autorightarrow{abc}{def} \autoleftrightharpoons{abc}{def} \autorightleftharpoons{abc}{def} These symbols are all â€œreverse accentsâ€ in that the two arguments serve, respectively, as a superscript and a subscript to the arrows. In addition to the symbols shown above, chemarrow also provides \larrowfill, \rarrowfill, \leftrightharpoonsfill, and \rightleftharpoonsfill macros. For an extended list of TEX-symbols, see http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/symbols/comprehensive/symbols-a4.pdf. Indeed, the http://www.stixfonts.org/ project looks promising, too.``` Regina Henschel 2007-08-12 15:37:23 UTC ```Adding Greek letters to selection window is another issue, but I think you need no new one, but it is covered with issue 6535. Labeled long arrows is issue 60591 and issue 43024. We've got others issues about adding symbols. Therefore this issue should focus on one problem. To enhancement: Provide additional arrow symbols which are often used in chemistry and provide arrow symbols which are not available as unicode character. ``` discoleo 2007-08-12 18:16:43 UTC ```discoleo->regina Thanks for the previous hints. I have added the relevant comments to those issues, as well. Please also close the double issue 80817. Regarding the initial issue: The first point is about TEX's \rightleftarrows and the 2nd point is probably about negated arrows, see TEX: Table 83: AMS Negated Arrows \nLeftarrow \nLeftrightarrow \nRightarrow \nleftarrow \nleftrightarrow \nrightarrow See on p31 of the TEX document: http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/symbols/comprehensive/symbols-a4.pdf. As I think more thoroughly, why shouldn't OOo be able to import these TEX symbols (TEX librarires)?``` Regina Henschel 2007-08-12 18:28:48 UTC `*** Issue 80617 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***` michael.ruess 2007-08-13 08:00:41 UTC ```Reassigned to requirements. There are also some other symbols which are used mainly for chemical illustration listed in this issue.``` lapsap7+ooo 2011-06-13 14:03:19 UTC ```A workaround is to use Unicode characters. Eg ⇉ U+21C9 Example in Math: a "⇉" b You have to use quotes, otherwise the double arrow is italic! Or you could use the Wikipedia trick :-/ as I've stated in issue 60591 comment #5.```