Issue 87113 - ctrl-shift-u for german underline conflicts with gnome unicode input
Summary: ctrl-shift-u for german underline conflicts with gnome unicode input
Alias: None
Product: General
Classification: Code
Component: ui (show other issues)
Version: OOo 2.4 RC5
Hardware: All Linux, all
: P3 Trivial (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: stefan.baltzer
QA Contact: issues@framework
Keywords: oooqa
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Blocks: 81913
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Reported: 2008-03-17 07:37 UTC by ccheney
Modified: 2009-03-31 15:36 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Issue Type: DEFECT
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Description ccheney 2008-03-17 07:37:33 UTC
The hotkey for underline in the German localization is ctrl-shift-u which
conflicts with the Gnome unicode input method which uses ctrl-shift-u also.
Comment 1 thorsten.martens 2008-03-17 11:22:33 UTC
TM->SBA: please have a look, thanks !
Comment 2 ccheney 2008-03-21 01:01:57 UTC
I should note that this will affect any locale that uses ctrl-shift-u, not just
the german one. The german localization was the one I received the Ubuntu bug
report about though. I don't know what other locales use the same hotkey.
Comment 3 lohmaier 2009-03-31 12:40:23 UTC
Means: OOo will not change default shortcuts because of this.

Don't use GTK-input method (then you won't be able to use the <ctrl>+<shift>+u
method though)
Reconfigure the shortcut for underline in OOo via Tools|Configure → Keyboard

changing OOo defaults would break consistency with bold and italic shortcuts and
consistency with other operating systems. You will never be able to have
shortcuts that don't conflict with the defaults of your Desktop-Environment.
Comment 4 lohmaier 2009-03-31 12:44:23 UTC
closing issue.

If you really think that the shortcut should be changed, then bring this to the
ux list (with a list of well-founded pros and cons)
Comment 5 ccheney 2009-03-31 15:28:37 UTC
"You will never be able to have shortcuts that don't conflict with the defaults
of your Desktop-Environment."

That is proof that the defaults are brain-damaged and should not be what they
currently are. Perhaps the idea of uniform shortcuts across all system types is
not feasible at all. Do the shortcuts not work properly on Windows either... or
are you basically saying "we found what works on Windows so who cares about
anything else" including Gnome which is the defacto Desktop for Linux and most
*nix for that matter.
Comment 6 lohmaier 2009-03-31 15:35:00 UTC
No. I'm not saying that. Reopening this issue will not help.

Feel free to patch your distro's version, feel free to take this to the
appropriate mailinglist.

Until then: Live with it.


The comment is proof that no matter what shorcuts you choose, there will always
be one that are already used by some other tool. There's nothing to be done
about it.

And yes, there might be a free combo, but sacrifying consistency (i.e. using
"ctrl+shift+k" for underline instead) for that is no option.

Take it to the mailinglist, with some well-grounded arguments or live with the
conflict/change it locally. You should use styles instead of hard formatting
anyway. Leaving this issue open won't help. It will sit there forever, without
any change. So wontfix is what it is: Will not be fixed. A honest answer,
whether you like it or not. To have a chance to change the shortcuts I can only
repeat myself: Bring it to the mailinglists with some good argumentation.
Otherwise you're wasting your time.
Comment 7 lohmaier 2009-03-31 15:36:30 UTC
"take it like a man"... closing.