Issue 87319 - send document as mail without client
Summary: send document as mail without client
Alias: None
Product: General
Classification: Code
Component: ui (show other issues)
Version: OOo 2.4.0
Hardware: All All
: P3 Trivial (vote)
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Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
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Keywords: needhelp
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Reported: 2008-03-21 20:07 UTC by amoroder2
Modified: 2014-02-05 13:56 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Issue Type: FEATURE
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Description amoroder2 2008-03-21 20:07:33 UTC

When users of webmail systems want to send a document via mail they have to save
the document, change to the webmail, upload the document and send.

According to the apo documentation
It should be possible to send document via SMTP directly from OOo without
client. There is no need for a full mail application, only a send window.

Comment 1 Mathias_Bauer 2008-03-27 20:05:58 UTC
The problem is that in this case the sent mail is gone - not outbox!
This can be seen as a data loss.

Comment 2 amoroder2 2008-03-29 14:52:01 UTC

the mail could simply be store in the "draft" folder.
The user can then open this mail, add the body and send it from the webmail
client. No interaction and needed in openoffice

Send the mail to the users mailbox so the user can forward it from his mailbox.
No interaction and needed in openoffice.

Advantages for the user is that instead of this steps:
save, change to the client, create new mail, open the file attach dialog and
search the file in the directory giungle. Send

the user performs this steps:
"Prepare for mailing" ( better the send to ), change to the mail client
IMAP: open the mail in the draft folder ( no need to search on the filesystem ).Send
POP3: open the mail in the inbox , forward it

IMHO this is much more comfortable

Comment 3 Mathias_Bauer 2008-03-31 15:31:18 UTC
I don't know how this answer addresses the problem.

If OOo sent out the mail directly with SMTP there is no way to store the sent
mail anwhere. This is not part of SMTP and OOo itself does not maintain an

So we use the local mail client to support this. On Windows this is the Simple
MAPI client. 

Perhaps you mean that in case the SMTP server belongs to the provider that
offers the web client it can store all sent mails? Sorry for asking, I don't use
Web Mail clients (they are a PITA IMHO) and so I don't know whether the client
will store all mails sent with the user's mail address or only those that are
sent through the Web GUI. My assumption was that it's the latter and that would
mean that the mail sent via SMTP directly indeed is not stored anywhere.

What we could do in OOo is supporting Web Client API's (in case there are some)
instead of Simple MAPI or SMTP. That could be even provided as an extension of
OOo. On Windows someone else even could provide a Simple MAPI client for Web
Mail clients and all programs using MAPI would benefit from that.

If you wanted to support 
Comment 4 amoroder2 2010-05-01 06:10:55 UTC

time passed and I am still convinced this could be a good feature.
The missing outbox is a non-issue if the user is aware of this or if it is
possible to send the mail automatically CC to his mailbox. The user will find
the outgoing mail in the inbox instead of the outbox, but filters can move the
mail to the right place.