Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla – Issue 88362
[Notes2] missing context menu item "Default Formatting" within notes
Last modified: 2013-08-07 14:38:26 UTC
DEV300_m7: The context menu of the new notes feature misses the item "Default Formatting". Since formattings are listed in the context menu, I think that "Default Formatting" should be available, too. Like in the standard writer context menu.
Created attachment 52940 [details] notes_default_format.odg
@norbert2: we removed this to make the context menu easier to use, the menu item you refer to is still available from Format menu @christophnoack: what do you think, should this be readded to the menu? Please discuss within UX
@mod: The buttons bold, italic, ... are much easier to reach via the toolbat than the "Default Formatting" via the menu. In my oppinion either the formatting buttons + the Default Formatting should be in context menu or none of them.
toolbat-> toolbar
Reassigned to ES.
@christophnoack: Please decide what we should have. I have no opinio about this, for I am using Ctrl+Shift+Space and other shortcuts anyway... :)
@norbert2: Considering consistency across menus, you're right. Here, we assume that the notes will be used a bit different from document text. (Btw: Thanks for the report and the graphic - very nice!) @all: The menu item is not available for two reasons: 1. Clutter free layout (as already mentioned) --> very few standard formatting options for notes, deactivation using same option again 2. There is no "default formatting" (yet) which can be accessed and/or changed by users (e.g. character style) --> menu item refers to different behavior in comparison with document text (but: we still provide the format menu entry and shortcuts) I will discuss this issue with CJ again, but this may need some time. I think the notes work very well (in terms of context menu) so we can ship in any case. @es: *g*
Hi! I discussed this issue with CJ and we decided that it is more a RFE. We should wait for some further feedback on the Notes. (again: we removed some of the more special formatting from the context menu along with the "default formatting".)
There are more formattings within notes available as I knew when filing the issue. For example paragraph settings are avaialble. I don't think that within notes the formattings bold, italic, underline and strikle trough are more often needed as within the document text. I guess the opposite is real. This makes the bold, italic, underline and strikle trough items absolutely missplaced in the context menu in my opinion. But when copying from somewhere into notes the user could have to remove unwanted formattings. So the "Default Formatting" is needed. So I - a user ;-) - come to the conclusion that these formattings items should be removed from context menu (because they are only a few of much possible formattings and not as often used as within the doument text) while "Default Formatting" should be added (since is is more often needed and would be consistent with the standard context).
In my opinion, we should add it back again, but I think UX came to a different conclusion. Maybe they reconsider it based on user feedback, I guess this should be top priority(if if makes sense) @norbert2: Format - Default Formatting as well as Ctrl-Shift-Space is of course available
pretty sure we won't remove formatting items, as it should still behave like normal text. We removed some items as UX wanted to clean up the context menues If you still want to remove all, create a new issue, but I doubt it will be implemented I guess all said, lets wait for UX comments to proceed
mod->christophnoack: can you decide what to do here? If it should stay like this, please close as Resolved - WontFix
We will keep the current behavior, as it was initially decided to focus on really essential functionality for the notes.
closing