Issue 88925 - bullet list arrows are confusing in rtl mode
Summary: bullet list arrows are confusing in rtl mode
Alias: None
Product: ui
Classification: Code
Component: ui (show other issues)
Version: OOo 2.4.0
Hardware: All Linux, all
: P3 Trivial with 1 vote (vote)
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Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
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Keywords: BIDI
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Blocks: 114236
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Reported: 2008-05-01 21:43 UTC by nadavkav
Modified: 2013-01-29 21:49 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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screen capture of the bullet list issue (130.56 KB, image/jpeg)
2008-05-02 18:37 UTC, nadavkav
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Description nadavkav 2008-05-01 21:43:21 UTC
it is a usability issue.

when in rtl mode...
the bullet-list "arrows" icons for up/down/in/out list item manipulation is a
little bit confusion. especially the "left" / "right" arrows for moving the list
items into sub level and back into upper level.

maybe they should be inverted in rtl mode ?
maybe we should have a more natural icons that express more accurately the
nature of the sub-level / up-level functions of a list's item ?
Comment 1 kaplanlior 2008-05-02 18:14:46 UTC
Can you describe with are these buttons ? I'm not sure what are you talking
about (I'm trying to confirm the bug).
Comment 2 nadavkav 2008-05-02 18:37:06 UTC
Created attachment 53323 [details]
screen capture of the bullet list issue
Comment 3 kaplanlior 2008-05-02 19:00:54 UTC
The word "Impress" was missing from the report...

Anyway, confirmed on 2.4.0 with Debian unstable.
Comment 4 kaplanlior 2010-08-09 22:43:19 UTC
This bug is still present in version 3.2.1 (OOO320m19). Could you please set a
target for it ?
Comment 5 ilantal 2010-09-22 16:21:47 UTC
I can confirm the response, but it isn't a bug.
Personally I would vote for a different icon as I would find it VERY confusing
if the same icon promoted or demoted an entry depending if it were ltr or rtf.
The arrows are good in that they are similar to the up down, but if they change
their meaning depending upon direction it would confuse me.
A new set of icons which promote ALWAYS and demote ALWAYS would be better in my
Comment 6 kaplanlior 2010-09-22 19:53:49 UTC
I see two solutions, and I'm fine with both.

1. Have different icons for the RTL UI show the arrows will point to the right

2. As we know we only need to switch between right/left arrows, we can work with
the current images and just change which icon is loaded to with button for RTL UI.

The second option is uglier but save the need to maintain two new images for the
Comment 7 kaplanlior 2010-09-28 19:06:05 UTC
I've notice that the arrow issue doesn't happen in writer (OOO320m19 (Build:9505)
ooo-build, Debian package 1:3.2.1-7). Maybe we could just duplicate the
solution done there.