Issue 88985 - "Quadratwurzelberechnung" missorted in german help
Summary: "Quadratwurzelberechnung" missorted in german help
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Product: Internationalization
Classification: Code
Component: helpcontent (show other issues)
Version: BEA300m2
Hardware: All All
: P3 Trivial (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
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Keywords: oooqa
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Reported: 2008-05-03 23:54 UTC by mikeadvo
Modified: 2017-05-20 11:13 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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alphabetical order in different languages (64.34 KB, application/
2008-05-05 17:09 UTC, Rainer Bielefeld
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Description mikeadvo 2008-05-03 23:54:12 UTC
"Quadratwurzelberechnung" is alphabeticly missorted in german help under
"Inhalte,  Makros und Programmierung, Befehle, Alphabetische Liste der
Funktionen, Ausdrücke". It's there sorted under "S", must be sorted under "Q".
Comment 1 mikeadvo 2008-05-04 12:35:06 UTC
Same missorting also of "Vergleichsoperatoren [Laufzeit]",
"Fehlerbehandlungsfunktionen" and "Weitere Anweisungen".
Comment 2 Rainer Bielefeld 2008-05-05 17:08:13 UTC
I checked with several different languages and can confirm the reported sort
problems. It seems that mostly these inserted "Headings" are related to an
invisible key word, that shows them at an unexpected place.
"Quadratwurzelberechnung" seems to be related to keyword "sqr", "Weitere
Anweisungen" to "Further instructions". No big problem, but ugly. 

French, Italian and Spanish HELP look really ugly here because of the leading
"Statement", "Function" and other terms. 

For all this please see my attached screenshots!
Comment 3 Rainer Bielefeld 2008-05-05 17:09:34 UTC
Created attachment 53387 [details]
alphabetical order in different languages
Comment 4 mikeadvo 2008-05-06 08:17:28 UTC
Suggest of solution:

No alphabeticaly ordered list in the help content. Better order in a functional
way (like in the calc-help).
Comment 5 Uwe Fischer 2008-05-07 09:18:41 UTC
->coni: Please examine if it is possible to have localized *.tree files in
helpcontent2/source/auxiliary. There are localized *.css and *.cfg files, but I
could not find any *.tree file right now. 
Comment 6 rafaella.braconi 2008-05-07 10:29:45 UTC
Ivo: we have a misfunction in the Calc Help. Can you please look into this?
Comment 7 ivo.hinkelmann 2008-05-07 12:40:50 UTC

in helpcontent2/source/auxiliary are en-US source *.tree files. The
/helpconten3/helpers/ merge the localization from the localize.sdf
files into localized *.tree files. After that the strings in the localized
*.tree files still have the ordering of the en-US files.

A tree file looks like this:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<tree_view version="24-Aug-2004">
    <help_section application="sbasic" id="07" title="Macros and Programming">
        <node id="0701" title="General Information and User Interface Usage">
<topic id="sbasic/text/sbasic/shared/main0601.xhp">%PRODUCTNAME Basic Help</topic>
<topic id="sbasic/text/sbasic/shared/01000000.xhp">Programming with %PRODUCTNAME
Basic </topic>
<topic id="sbasic/text/sbasic/shared/00000002.xhp">%PRODUCTNAME Basic
        <node id="0702" title="Command Reference">
           <topic ...

So please modify the that it sorts all topics within a node
during the merge process!
Comment 8 Uwe Fischer 2008-05-13 15:46:23 UTC
->ihi: who will change the file?
->all: is it really desirable to automatically sort all nodes alphabetically?
This would certainly bring less important node headings to the top of a group. A
kind of workflow defined by the order of the node headings would not be possible
any more. So we would need <sorted> and </sorted> tags in the tree files instead
to define the area that gets sorted. (We have such tags in the xhp files,
although they currently do not work any more)
I would rather delete the long list of BASIC keywords from the Contents tab page
if it is not possible to have it sorted in all languages.
Comment 9 ivo.hinkelmann 2008-05-13 17:32:20 UTC
fpe will do the change?!?

Is it really that bad to sort the topics by character and not by priority? 
Comment 10 frank.thomas.peters 2008-05-28 14:47:45 UTC
Changed target: 3.x
I won't be able to update the script for 3.0. It does not offer sorting.
Comment 11 frank.thomas.peters 2009-01-12 15:06:36 UTC
reset target 3.x
Comment 12 Marcus 2017-05-20 11:13:35 UTC
Reset assigne to the default "".