Issue 92859 - Crushing chinese font (mingliu.ttc) in OOO300m2 writer
Summary: Crushing chinese font (mingliu.ttc) in OOO300m2 writer
Status: CLOSED IRREPRODUCIBLE
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: viewing (show other issues)
Version: OOO300m2
Hardware: PC Linux, all
: P4 Trivial with 1 vote (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: eric.savary
QA Contact: issues@sw
URL:
Keywords: needmoreinfo, oooqa
: 88636 (view as issue list)
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2008-08-18 07:02 UTC by minhsien0330
Modified: 2009-12-22 13:44 UTC (History)
5 users (show)

See Also:
Issue Type: DEFECT
Latest Confirmation in: ---
Developer Difficulty: ---


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zoom 100% (35.59 KB, image/png)
2008-08-18 07:03 UTC, minhsien0330
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zoom 105% (54.32 KB, image/png)
2008-08-18 07:04 UTC, minhsien0330
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zoom 110% (53.38 KB, image/png)
2008-08-18 07:04 UTC, minhsien0330
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zoom 115% (57.22 KB, image/png)
2008-08-18 07:05 UTC, minhsien0330
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The testing odt file (8.33 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2008-08-18 07:10 UTC, minhsien0330
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zoom 100% (mingliu.ttc problem) (77.73 KB, image/jpeg)
2008-08-21 12:47 UTC, minhsien0330
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zoom 105% (mingliu.ttc problem) (101.83 KB, image/jpeg)
2008-08-21 12:47 UTC, minhsien0330
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zoom 110% (mingliu.ttc problem) (117.82 KB, image/jpeg)
2008-08-21 12:49 UTC, minhsien0330
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zoom 115% (mingliu.ttc problem) (112.25 KB, image/jpeg)
2008-08-21 12:49 UTC, minhsien0330
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ubuntu 100% (37.50 KB, text/plain)
2008-10-31 07:28 UTC, amy2008
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ubuntu 105% (49.87 KB, image/png)
2008-10-31 07:29 UTC, amy2008
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ubuntu 110% (48.35 KB, image/png)
2008-10-31 07:29 UTC, amy2008
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ubuntu 115% (48.54 KB, image/png)
2008-10-31 07:30 UTC, amy2008
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100 percent (37.50 KB, text/plain)
2008-11-03 08:52 UTC, amy2008
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105 percent (49.87 KB, text/plain)
2008-11-03 08:53 UTC, amy2008
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110 percent (48.35 KB, text/plain)
2008-11-03 08:53 UTC, amy2008
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115 percent (48.54 KB, image/png)
2008-11-03 08:54 UTC, amy2008
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ooo 3.0 still show the crushing mingliu.ttc fonts (64.94 KB, image/png)
2008-11-03 14:18 UTC, minhsien0330
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The file size of mingliu.ttc that crushed in OO.o Linux version (60.09 KB, image/jpeg)
2008-11-09 11:34 UTC, minhsien0330
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The file size of mingliu.ttc that not crushed in OO.o Linux version (59.26 KB, image/jpeg)
2008-11-09 11:35 UTC, minhsien0330
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Description minhsien0330 2008-08-18 07:02:55 UTC
The mingliu.ttc (Microsoft's chinese font)  would be crushing or having no bold
or italic effect in different zoom size. 
Just as the attachments ( png ), thanks~
Comment 1 minhsien0330 2008-08-18 07:03:26 UTC
Created attachment 55820 [details]
zoom 100%
Comment 2 minhsien0330 2008-08-18 07:04:03 UTC
Created attachment 55821 [details]
zoom 105%
Comment 3 minhsien0330 2008-08-18 07:04:38 UTC
Created attachment 55822 [details]
zoom 110%
Comment 4 minhsien0330 2008-08-18 07:05:10 UTC
Created attachment 55823 [details]
zoom 115%
Comment 5 minhsien0330 2008-08-18 07:10:06 UTC
Created attachment 55824 [details]
The testing odt file
Comment 6 michael.ruess 2008-08-18 13:48:03 UTC
Reassigned to ES.
Comment 7 eric.savary 2008-08-19 14:27:56 UTC
Looks like a duplicate of isssue 92857.

*** This issue has been marked as a duplicate of 92857 ***
Comment 8 eric.savary 2008-08-19 14:28:09 UTC
closed
Comment 9 minhsien0330 2008-08-21 12:47:04 UTC
Created attachment 55903 [details]
zoom 100% (mingliu.ttc problem)
Comment 10 minhsien0330 2008-08-21 12:47:45 UTC
Created attachment 55904 [details]
zoom 105% (mingliu.ttc problem)
Comment 11 minhsien0330 2008-08-21 12:49:06 UTC
Created attachment 55905 [details]
zoom 110% (mingliu.ttc problem)
Comment 12 minhsien0330 2008-08-21 12:49:58 UTC
Created attachment 55906 [details]
zoom 115% (mingliu.ttc problem)
Comment 13 eric.savary 2008-09-16 12:22:55 UTC
Reopening
Comment 14 eric.savary 2008-09-16 12:26:52 UTC
@HDU: have you any idea? Accessing Linux over vnc, I doubt I can really
reproduce it. I can reproduce a bad display of the font (especially when bold)
to certain zoom factors but all attributes are there at any zoom factor.

If you want to check this, I have the 2 MS fonts mingliu.ttc and mingliub.ttc on
my "tausch".
Comment 15 amy2008 2008-10-30 10:30:54 UTC
Confirmed it in OOo300m9 on WinXP.
minhsien0330, thank you for your great work.
Li Meiying
Comment 16 eric.savary 2008-10-30 10:49:17 UTC
@amy2008: what did you reproduce? the bad display of the font or the missing
font attributes?
Comment 17 amy2008 2008-10-31 07:07:38 UTC
Sorry,Confirmed it in OOo300m9 on Ubuntu.

>@amy2008: what did you reproduce? the bad display of the font or the missing
>font attributes?
I opened the attachment mingliu_problem.odt
Font attributes (bold or italic) missed when zooming in 105%,115%...
Please check it once more.
Sorry for my late reply again.

Li Meiying
Comment 18 amy2008 2008-10-31 07:08:58 UTC
Add:
Haven't found the bad display of the font.
:)
Li Meiying 
Comment 19 amy2008 2008-10-31 07:28:17 UTC
Created attachment 57600 [details]
ubuntu 100%
Comment 20 amy2008 2008-10-31 07:29:07 UTC
Created attachment 57601 [details]
ubuntu 105%
Comment 21 amy2008 2008-10-31 07:29:40 UTC
Created attachment 57602 [details]
ubuntu 110%
Comment 22 amy2008 2008-10-31 07:30:12 UTC
Created attachment 57603 [details]
ubuntu 115%
Comment 23 minhsien0330 2008-10-31 10:57:37 UTC
Hi~ amy2008~
I can not download the attachements that you uploaded.
Would you rename them (not use "%" in fileanme)  and upload again?
Thanks a lot~ :)
Comment 24 hdu@apache.org 2008-10-31 13:01:25 UTC
reminder: I guess this is a combination of the well known Mingliu-Hinting and Freetype problem in 
combination with FTEmbolden() or a sheared transformation matrix.
Comment 25 amy2008 2008-11-03 08:52:04 UTC
Created attachment 57667 [details]
100 percent
Comment 26 amy2008 2008-11-03 08:53:01 UTC
Created attachment 57669 [details]
105 percent
Comment 27 amy2008 2008-11-03 08:53:24 UTC
Created attachment 57670 [details]
110 percent
Comment 28 amy2008 2008-11-03 08:54:17 UTC
Created attachment 57671 [details]
115 percent
Comment 29 amy2008 2008-11-03 08:58:31 UTC
Hi minhsien0330 and hdu,
Sorry for my carelessness, I have uploaded four new images, would you like
checking it again?
Li Meiying
Comment 30 minhsien0330 2008-11-03 14:16:32 UTC
Thanks to amy2008, I can download your attachments now.
You just met "no bold" and "no bold & italic" in zoom 110% only, and there was
no crushing fonts.
I tried Openoffice.org 3.0 (English Version), but the crushing problems remain.
Comment 31 minhsien0330 2008-11-03 14:18:09 UTC
Created attachment 57681 [details]
ooo 3.0 still show the crushing mingliu.ttc fonts
Comment 32 amy2008 2008-11-04 02:53:06 UTC
OOo300m9 in my testing computer is English version too. Maybe, is it something 
relating to OS (My OS is Ubuntu)?
Li Meiying
Comment 33 minhsien0330 2008-11-09 11:34:54 UTC
Created attachment 57801 [details]
The file size of mingliu.ttc that crushed in OO.o Linux version
Comment 34 minhsien0330 2008-11-09 11:35:40 UTC
Created attachment 57802 [details]
The file size of mingliu.ttc that not crushed in OO.o Linux version
Comment 35 minhsien0330 2008-11-09 11:44:31 UTC
Hi all~
I found 2 different mingliu.ttc !
One will lead to crushing fonts in OO.o 3.0 Linux version, and the other one won't.
Although they had different size, they had the same version number.

The mingliu.ttc that lead to crushing font had smaller file size↓(I got them
from Win2000 sp4 & WinXP sp2, Traditional chinese version)
http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/57801/mingliu-Crushing.jpg

The mingliu.ttc that not lead to crushing font had smaller file size↓
http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/57802/mingliu-No_Crushing.jpg

Maybe amy2008 use the later mingliu.ttc (with 23400KB) ? 
 :)
Comment 36 eric.savary 2008-11-17 16:19:35 UTC
@minhsien0330: please send me the "crushing font" by mail mentioning the issue
ID in the subject line. Then I'll be able to check if the font is generally
defect or if we have a problem with it.
Comment 37 eric.savary 2008-11-19 13:57:53 UTC
*** Issue 88636 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 38 minhsien0330 2008-11-23 07:32:19 UTC
Dear all~
I found a chinese page mention the same crushing problem with mingliu.ttc.

http://wiki.debian.org.hk/w/Fonts

It said that mingliu.ttc would be crushing without "hinting".
Comment 39 eric.savary 2008-11-24 12:28:58 UTC
So assuming this is a problem of the font. Not an OOo problem.
Comment 40 eric.savary 2008-11-24 12:29:11 UTC
Closed
Comment 41 minhsien0330 2008-11-24 14:02:00 UTC
To es:
I tried Debian version of OOo 3.0 (3.0.0-4), there was not crushing mingliu.ttc
problem, no matter what version of mingliu.ttc or kaiu.ttf.
But the official OOo 3.0 always had this crushing problem when using kaiu.ttf
and specific mingliu.ttc version.
So I think there may be somewhat hinting problem of official OOo.
Would you reopen this font displaying problem please?
Thanks a lot~

Debian OOo-3.0 packages↓
http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=Openoffice.org&searchon=names&suite=experimental&section=all
Comment 42 hdu@apache.org 2009-12-22 13:44:37 UTC
Mingliu.ttc is "famous" for abusing the tt-hint system. They are not used as intended for adjusting the 
outline to the raster display but also for moving strokes around. So this font does not work on systems  
where autohinting is enabled or where tt-hinting is disabled