Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla – Issue 9352
Styles Catalog doesn't show all paragraph styles when first opened
Last modified: 2013-08-07 14:38:26 UTC
Very annoying. When first open Styles...Catalog, not all the Paragraph styles are shown. (I'm not quite sure which ones show: my own styles aren't shown, but also styles such as Illustration, List, which I didn't create, are missing.) If I switch from Paragraph to Character styles, then back, all the Paragraph styles appear. Very annoying
Stevan, thank you for using and supporting OOo. Please list which version of OOo you are using. How did you install OOo?
From the distribution Linux Mandrake 9.0. Version of OOo is as reported in the Version field above: 1.0.1
Stevan thanks for the update. Can you give us any hints on how you installed OOo 1.0.1? Unable to duplicate on RH 8.0, OOo 1.0.1. Could be a Mandrake issue.
I have figured out what happens. It happens on Windows as well as two different Linux distributions. When the dialog is first opened, the Style Area selector at the bottom of the dialog is on "Automatic". After you use the Category selector at the top of the dialog to switch to "Character Styles" then back to "Paragraph Styles", the Style Area selector reads "All Styles". This is very confusing behaviour. It can leave a user that the style they have just carefully defined has disappeared. Let me be explicit as to what I'm seeing. Open plain document, pull down Format->Styles->Catalog. It shows Paragraph styles initially. The Style Area selector reads "Automatic". List has 20 items, starting with Complimentary close Default First line indent Hanging indent Heading ... Switch to Character Styles, then back to Paragraph Styles. The Style Area selector now reads "All Styles". List now has more than 120 items, starting with Addressee Bibliography 1 Bibliography Heading Caption Complimentary close ...
Marking this as confirmed. Should we change the Summary to Styles Catalog needs to work in a more consitent way? I have run into this problem on several occassions, and it is confusing to say the least. It does appear as if your styles have been deleted. Should this be a feature request, or left as a defect?
Hi! I don't understand the problem. To get the precious self-created styles into sight, use "applied styles" in the stylist. Now do what all users do all the time (SCNR ;-): click through the icons on top of the stylist for a while: It will stay at "applied styles" for all of them. Feel free to write a feature request that this setting is "lost" after an Office restart. Concerning the default being "Automatic" and changing to character styles and back makes it "All styles": There is slightly bigger fish to catch as this is not exactly ruining every users day every day. Unless you find someone from the community to provide some code to get a change here, this one will stay Prio5 and won't get fixed for a LONG time. I'd prefer to close it as "invalid" as this is only a problem if you make it a problem.
Set to "Wont Fix" and closed.
Good grief, Stefan. You start off by announcing you don't understand the problem. Then you insult any user who creates their own "precious" style. Then agree that there is a confusing work around. Then close the bug report on the grounds that it doesn't hurt all users all the time. I hope you're just having a bad day. What can I do but re-open the report?
SBA: I do understand that one might wish a slightly different behavior. I don't understand that this is any kind of a big issue. Those who are familiar with queries and "The big issue overview" would easily agree. Those who find ONE issue in far too many cases take THIS one issue too serious. I do nothing but QA the whole day, I claim I do have an overview and that was the base for what I did. Not at all a bad day, but it's not the first time that people take it personal when we decide "True, but too little a problem from the public point of view". If you really like to watch this issue unsolved for "a while", it's not a problem in general. On the other hand we do already have enough issues to do that COULD make a bigger steps for MANY more users. Simply reopening is the right step from your side if you think that seeing this issue aging is getting us foreward. :-( But I stick to my opinion that there is bigger fish to catch: If a user gets confronted with "All styles", it is likely that he's overwhelmed and confused. The "applied styles" is not a good start either because in an empty document, there is no style applied. Therefore the default "Automatic" was chosen in order to give a meaningful style selection. Thos who are familiar with styles (my "favorite uses", as hard-formatting leads to trouble in many cases but still is a common way to work) can get "their" favorite style selection with one mouse click. Now what's the big issue here? Someone who's already familiar with the stylist isn't 120% satisfied and wishes something different from what was decided in order to serve as much users as possible. In my opinion the default "All styles" would scare off users, resulting in NOT using the helpful stylist at all. SBA->OS: Have a look and do something it unless you have something more imoportant to do. This one is Prio5. ;-)
We had the same problem (the re-ordering after changing the style family) with the Stylist. The re-ordering of the list box (All styles, Automatic, ...) solved it. This should be done in the style catalog, too. Additionally I agree that it makes more sense to preselect "All styles" in the style catalog. In the Stylist the "Automatic" setting makes more sense. OS->CJ: What do you think about a change here?
I too was temporarily confused to not see my custom styles in the Stylelist upon opening a document with custom styles applied. Sure, anyone who uses styles will realize they need to select a different view/filter, but this doesn't prevent this behavior from being a bit unintuitive. Also, the Stylelist view/filter name 'Automatic' doesn't really convey anything to me. Does this mean 'styles stored in the template'? (Some of the styles in the default template look to be letter-related so I guess this template is a Business Letter template, though it's just called 'default'.) Perhaps the default Stylelist view for new documents could remain 'Automatic' (or whatever the best term for this is) but for existing documents the view would be 'Applied Styles'
[...] We had the same problem (the re-ordering after changing the style family) with the Stylist. The re-ordering of the list box (All styles, Automatic, ...) solved it. This should be done in the style catalog, too. Additionally I agree that it makes more sense to preselect "All styles" in the style catalog. In the Stylist the "Automatic" setting makes more sense. OS->CJ: What do you think about a change here? CJ->OS: I think 'All Styles' shall be preselected and we shall behave like we do in the stylist.
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Extra Styles Catalog is no more, so wontfix.
closing obsolete issue
FWIW, I can confirm that this bug has finally been fixed at least as of version 3.1.1. Of course, the dialogs involved are rather different than they were before, but when I followed as best I could the directions given, new styles did not disappear as before. The listings seem more logical now. Thank you for your efforts!