Issue 94782 - WW8: underscore characters displayed wider than in MS Word
Summary: WW8: underscore characters displayed wider than in MS Word
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: viewing (show other issues)
Version: OOo 2.4.0
Hardware: All All
: P3 Trivial (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
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Reported: 2008-10-08 19:52 UTC by eengnerd
Modified: 2013-08-07 14:38 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Issue Type: DEFECT
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This document has one extra partial page in OO.o (155.00 KB, application/msword)
2008-10-18 01:10 UTC, eengnerd
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Description eengnerd 2008-10-08 19:52:42 UTC
In all versions of OO.o Writer to date, the contents of documents originally 
written with MS Word (any version) will not be displayed in the same way when 
opened in OO.o Writer.  In documents of 20 pages or more, the last page 
contains things that are on the previous page when it is opened in Word.  I 
think that one of the problem characters is the "underscore" character.  But 
the fonts should be carefully checked for correct width so that the document 
remains unchanged in the way it is laid out in both Word and OpenOffice 
Writer.  This is an extremely important issue to me, because my wife is a 
professional translator and she is not free to use OO.o Writer for translation 
without doing a final stage check in Word.  This problem also exists in the 
current beta version of OO.o version 3.0 Writer.
Comment 1 tml 2008-10-09 07:45:27 UTC
You are expecting too much. As far as I know 100% exact import or Word files
into Writer is not promised and in fact technically impossible to achieve, and
actually meaningless as we after all are talking about two different
applications with very different internal data structures. It's especially hard
to get an exactly identical (automatic) division of a document into pages. I bet
that even with Word itself you will get slightly different pagination if you
have set the page sizes too "tight" and/or have different printers, for instance.
Comment 2 eengnerd 2008-10-09 22:48:34 UTC
Dear TML,

I'm also a programmer from the Windows platform and switched my focus in 1998 
to Linux development.  I don' think I am expecting too much, but I understand 
your concern.  I think that in fact, this one issue is THE main reason why most 
professionals who regularly use computers at work are refusing to adopt any 
version of Linux with much enthusiasm.  There is a great wealth of apps out for 
Linux, so the old argument about the number of apps no longer applies.  But if 
this problem can be resolved it will go a long way in helping corporate offices 
to adopt some flavor of Linux and to eventually drop Windows altogether.  While 
other Word Processing software does exist for Linux, OO.o is by far the most 
popular one.  So I think that there is a great deal of responsibility resting 
upon your (Sun's and the rest of the volunteers) shoulders.

Many people have pointed out this flaw to me and have expressed great wrath 
over the layout changes.

I know this is a tough problem to solve, but it is very worthwhile.

Arthur Baldwin
Comment 3 michael.ruess 2008-10-17 17:21:28 UTC
eengnerd, please attach the sample file to this issue so that we are able to
reproduce and perhaps fix the issue. Otherwise we won't be able to do anything
on this. Thanks for your patience.
Comment 4 eengnerd 2008-10-18 01:10:45 UTC
Created attachment 57243 [details]
This document has one extra partial page in OO.o
Comment 5 michael.ruess 2008-10-21 16:56:19 UTC
Here are two problems in the issue which lead to the fact that an extra page is
generated in OOo Writer after import of the attached document. In this issue we
will focus on the lines built by the underscore characters. For the wrong
paragraph border below that I will file a new issue.

MRU->FME: see the "lines" on page 19. these consist of underscore characters. In
OO Writer they are displayed a little wider than in MS Word, so that a fourth
line will be produced in Writer.