Issue 9691 - Need for runtime viewers and presentation packaging
Summary: Need for runtime viewers and presentation packaging
Alias: None
Product: Impress
Classification: Application
Component: code (show other issues)
Version: OOo 1.0.1
Hardware: All All
: P3 Trivial with 10 votes (vote)
Target Milestone: OOo 2.0
Assignee: falko.tesch
QA Contact: issues@graphics
Keywords: oooqa
: 6448 (view as issue list)
Depends on: 7137
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Reported: 2002-11-30 12:34 UTC by ccasteyde
Modified: 2003-10-08 13:54 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Issue Type: FEATURE
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Description ccasteyde 2002-11-30 12:34:31 UTC
It can be compelling to install OO on a machine used
for presentations that we do not own. Having at least
a small OO presentation file viewer, or better the
"presentation packaging" in an "autoviewer" executable
binary (or shell) functionnality would be appreciable.

This lacks presentation programs since PowerPoint emerged
(it was certainly intended to compell readers to by
authoring tools too). It was implemented in old presentation
programs such as Asymetrix Presentation or Freelance graphics.

By the vay, the need for viewers for OO writer & calc
is the same, but for presentation, I consider it a vital
feature (people will stick to PowerPoint by habits anyway).

Comment 1 wolframgarten 2002-12-02 07:21:52 UTC
Set to new.
Comment 2 wolframgarten 2002-12-02 07:22:13 UTC
Reassigned to Falko.
Comment 3 lohmaier 2003-05-31 17:16:13 UTC
setting target milestone
Comment 4 lcombe 2003-07-26 20:02:10 UTC
see also issue 6448
Comment 5 lars 2003-09-07 02:06:37 UTC
*** Issue 6448 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 6 lars 2003-09-07 02:22:26 UTC
requirements: parses the OOo file, displys its content on screen; 
allows text to be highlighted, text to be searched, text to be 
copied, window content can be scrolled by "drag'ndrop", has a print 
icon and an edit icon; edit icon calls the real app. viewer app. 
would  be nothing more than a frame around the content.

All OO files get a flag "doc completeted" which can be set by the 
user upon save in the file properties or by an icon in the taskbar of 
the app. during editing and this flag is used by the viewer app to 
determine whether itself should display the file or the big app. 
should overtake.

As the viewer app will be loaded first, it is in there where the 
parse and display code lives and which could be used by the big app.; 
so no load time is lost there. But a user saves time when only the 
viewer pops up.

Calc documents are also created for presenting on screen, so saving 
screen res. with which they are created (or ask creator which to 
choose) should be implemented. The viewer then asks to change the 
screen res. if necessary.

A Fullscreen-View Mode should be a must, together with a visually 
appealing, easy-to-use, immediately-to-understand, not-much-space-
obscuring (overall) document navigation interface.

Another step is to offer wrapped documents, these are documents which 
contain the code to display them in themselves; they're an exe file 
like WinZip Self-Extractor!

And all viewers should be really fast...!
Comment 7 falko.tesch 2003-09-10 14:07:29 UTC
The long-standers might still remeber:
There _was_ a viewer once around!
But it was completetely dropped for the following reasons:
- Size (grew way too big)
- Acceptance (people just would use it!)
- Outdated (most mobile presentations of today use other media than
native format)
While the third issue might be arguable the first two finally killed
this effort.
And now that we have a full documented file format we do not rely on
our own programs anymore to render our presentations.
Therefore turned down.
Comment 8 lars 2003-09-10 16:00:32 UTC
disappointing, particularly because of issue 7137
but this means an architectural change
to not offer viewers from yourself is OK by the points listed by you
Comment 9 lohmaier 2003-09-10 19:14:18 UTC
There are external attemps to create such a viewer:
Just because it is not actively developed by OOo/Sun doesn't mean that
there won't one...
Comment 10 hesse 2003-09-11 09:39:08 UTC
I'm disappointed too. This issues is Top 11 in the Issue Votes (not
calculating duplicates - issue 6448). I thought that this should mean
something. As I do not programm I cant judge the first argument
(Size). But I cant believe the to other arguments. A viewer is very
important for an office that has to compete with a market leader like
M$. I think people using OOo would not only accept a viewer but would
be very happy. I personally experienced the problems sharing documents
with others. Neither Word nor PDF export work good enough not to have
a viewer. 
Outdated - a viewer would not only be used for mobil presentations but
for other PC's as well.

The full documented file format is a good argument. But as long as
there are no other viewers I think it is important to develop them. I
dont know any viewers by now. From my point of view, a viewer is an
application one can install (better: works without installation) if
one does not wont to install an 80 MB application. As far as I know
cuckooo needs OOo installed.
Comment 11 hesse 2003-09-11 10:22:25 UTC
Forgot something: cuckooo is only Linux - nothing for Windows out
there? There should be a viewer for at least the major OS.
Comment 12 falko.tesch 2003-10-08 13:54:33 UTC