Issue 98125 - false positioning of some hebrew characters
Summary: false positioning of some hebrew characters
Status: CONFIRMED
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: formatting (show other issues)
Version: OOo 3.0
Hardware: PC Linux, all
: P3 Trivial (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
QA Contact:
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Keywords: needmoreinfo, oooqa
Depends on: 104221
Blocks:
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Reported: 2009-01-15 19:43 UTC by khx
Modified: 2017-09-13 04:02 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

See Also:
Issue Type: DEFECT
Latest Confirmation in: ---
Developer Difficulty: ---


Attachments
hebrew charakter positioning errors (73.02 KB, image/jpeg)
2009-01-15 19:51 UTC, khx
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demo (74.31 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2009-01-16 16:12 UTC, khx
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a special font - other fonts available on internet (333.24 KB, application/x-compressed)
2009-01-16 16:15 UTC, khx
no flags Details
ooo310m9 build 9396 with sbl hebrew font (125.16 KB, image/png)
2009-04-10 19:48 UTC, khx
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ooo310m9 build 9396 with ezra sil font (110.10 KB, image/png)
2009-04-10 19:50 UTC, khx
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list with o.k and false (56.47 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2009-05-15 21:26 UTC, khx
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new problem with holom waw in 320-m4 (331 bytes, image/jpeg)
2009-11-11 19:57 UTC, khx
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next try - sorry, i made an error exporting from gimp (54.38 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2009-11-13 21:02 UTC, khx
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reduced bugdoc (9.33 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2009-11-18 15:57 UTC, hdu@apache.org
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Overlapping atnach Ö‘ and Ö¶ after small letter zayin ×– + qamats Ö¸ (16.01 KB, text/plain)
2009-11-22 21:21 UTC, khx
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Description khx 2009-01-15 19:43:59 UTC
hello,

I have the problem with false positioning of some hebrew charakters in writer

1. the chiriq (u+05b4) under the yod (u+05d9) is positioned too high

2. the letter following holam (u+05b9) & merkha (u+05a5) &  alef (u+05d0) overlaps
the alef

I am using Esrta SIL fonts
other fonts/OO-Versions/WinXP make more problems

hermann
Comment 1 khx 2009-01-15 19:51:10 UTC
Created attachment 59417 [details]
hebrew charakter positioning errors
Comment 2 eric.savary 2009-01-16 14:18:35 UTC
Please attach a sample document.
Comment 3 khx 2009-01-16 16:12:57 UTC
Created attachment 59435 [details]
demo
Comment 4 khx 2009-01-16 16:15:30 UTC
Created attachment 59436 [details]
a special font - other fonts available on internet
Comment 5 khx 2009-01-16 19:45:00 UTC
the same effect is with some other cantilation marks below instead of merkha
(u+05a5)
Comment 6 khx 2009-01-22 11:40:39 UTC
the portable openoffice 2.4.1/3.0.0 (win xp)works much better (???),
but some sequences are split in 2 lines - but this preoblem is with all win versions
using SBL Hebrew font instead of Ezra SIL on portable OO , i found no problems
up to now
Comment 7 eric.savary 2009-04-03 16:02:52 UTC
Please test this in a current developer version:
http://download.openoffice.org/next/index.html

Describe precisely where in the document the problem can be found, how it look
like and how it should look like (add screenshots)
Comment 8 khx 2009-04-10 18:03:19 UTC
Sorry,

I dont know how to install an additional OO version on my debian linux
whithout uninstalling the other one

is this possible at all

hermann
Comment 9 khx 2009-04-10 19:48:21 UTC
Created attachment 61509 [details]
ooo310m9 build 9396 with sbl hebrew font
Comment 10 khx 2009-04-10 19:50:30 UTC
Created attachment 61510 [details]
ooo310m9 build 9396 with ezra sil font
Comment 11 khx 2009-04-10 19:58:11 UTC
hi,

linux ooo310m9 build 9396 with ezra sil font:
often 1. (right) letter cut off (see red marks)

linux ooo310m9 build 9396 with sbl hebrew font;
additional often words are split in 2 lines

hermann
Comment 12 khx 2009-05-09 12:15:45 UTC
in ooo3109m11,RC(Build 9399)/Linux(sidux 64)
there are still problems
I tried to update to 3.1 (not RC),
but apt-get says OO to be already the newest version

hermann
Comment 13 eric.savary 2009-05-13 21:19:00 UTC
@khx:

Install more than 1 OOo - Please have a look here:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Run_OOo_versions_parallel#DEB_packages

Current version - Download it from our site:

http://download.openoffice.org/other.html

To the problem you report: sorry but I don't know Hebrew which makes the
tracking of errors in your document/screenshots pretty hard (upon this I am
color blind so that your marks don't helps so much :) )

Can you please create a *simple* sample document with a few characters including
the defect one and 2 screenshots: the defect you see in OOo and a correct
display of the same characters (taken from an other application)

@HDU: maybe related ro issue 101671
Comment 14 khx 2009-05-15 21:26:44 UTC
Created attachment 62298 [details]
list with o.k and false
Comment 15 khx 2009-05-15 22:24:23 UTC
hello,

installed newest oo-dev on sidux 64 bit (debian)
the same problems as in 3.1



Comment 16 eric.savary 2009-06-12 13:25:53 UTC
Maybe a duplicate of issue 99863.

@HDU: I did not reproduce it (didn't try on Linux yet) but does this looks like
issue 99863?
Comment 17 eric.savary 2009-06-17 12:41:06 UTC
@HDU: ping! :)
Comment 18 eric.savary 2009-07-16 23:21:51 UTC
Reassigned
Comment 19 khx 2009-11-11 19:57:34 UTC
Created attachment 66068 [details]
new problem with holom waw in 320-m4
Comment 20 khx 2009-11-11 20:11:38 UTC
hello *,

former problems seem to be solved in 320-m4 (64 bit sidux-debian-linux)
BIG Thanks !!!

but there is a new one
holom waw ו often overlaps the following character
the above dot is an extra character

hermann
Comment 21 hdu@apache.org 2009-11-13 13:13:06 UTC
If the original problem was solved in OOO320_m4 then it was fixed by the changes for issue 104221. 

For the remaining problem with the holom wav overlapping with a succeeding above dot I looked at the 
JPEG you provided and saw nothing... A small document with just the minimal text to reproduce it would 
be very helpful.
Comment 22 khx 2009-11-13 21:02:45 UTC
Created attachment 66109 [details]
next try - sorry, i made an error exporting from gimp
Comment 23 khx 2009-11-13 21:35:40 UTC
Hello,

here some additional info to the 300m4-error01 document

problems are with "\u05b9\u05d5"-seqence, which overlaps the following letter.
with an accent (meteg, atnach,...) between ("\u05b9\u0591\u05d5"), there is no error

be aware to read hebrew from right to left
Comment 24 khx 2009-11-13 21:39:24 UTC
you can workarond by inserting a normal space ("\u0020") after
Comment 25 hdu@apache.org 2009-11-18 15:57:35 UTC
Created attachment 66171 [details]
reduced bugdoc
Comment 26 khx 2009-11-22 21:21:44 UTC
Created attachment 66267 [details]
Overlapping atnach Ö‘ and Ö¶ after small letter zayin ×– + qamats Ö¸
Comment 27 Marcus 2017-05-20 11:18:02 UTC
Reset assigne to the default "issues@openoffice.apache.org".
Comment 28 SerachBracha Albert 2017-09-13 04:02:34 UTC
Comment on attachment 59417 [details]
hebrew charakter positioning errors

Several of the Hebrew letters (Hananiah) are backwards (mirror images of actual letters) and some are incomplete or strange in other ways.
I downloaded the Hebrew language package, but there was no improvement.
Any idea what's causing these issues and what might remedy them?

Thank you!