Issue 98867 - "all languages" option disappeared
Summary: "all languages" option disappeared
Status: CLOSED WONT_FIX
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: editing (show other issues)
Version: OOo 3.0.1
Hardware: PC Windows XP
: P3 Trivial with 6 votes (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: writerneedsconfirm
QA Contact: issues@sw
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: 99457 107223 (view as issue list)
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Reported: 2009-02-04 10:37 UTC by scagni
Modified: 2012-06-17 08:43 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Issue Type: DEFECT
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Description scagni 2009-02-04 10:37:12 UTC
I do not actually know if this has been voluntarily removed, but in OO 3.0.1, in
the linguistic settings dialogs, among the "options" the flag for "all
languages", which allowed the automatic spell checking to check words against
all languages with installed dictionaries (in my case English and Italian) has
DISAPPEARED.
This is unfortunate since it was a VERY helpful option in the preparation of
bilingual documents (almost the majority in my case).
In the help files however, the "all languages" option is still present and
explained.
I would strongly favour its reinstallment.
Comment 1 michael.ruess 2009-02-04 13:46:09 UTC
Thi has been removed intentionally. See issue 91953 and specification
http://specs.openoffice.org/appwide/linguistic/Spelling_and_Grammar.odt
Comment 2 michael.ruess 2009-02-04 13:49:22 UTC
Closed.
Comment 3 scagni 2009-02-04 14:09:44 UTC
I looked into the document you indicated and saw that the elimination of the all
languages option was intentional.
Probably my limited understanding does not allow me to grasp how to obtain the
same result with the new organization of linguistics. If so please could you let
me know how to do it?
Or otherwise, if this function is actually no more possible, I fail to
understand why, since as I noticed before it was really useful.
If the latter is the case, please consider if something of the kind would be
worth reintroducing. Thanks a lot.
Comment 4 thomas.lange 2009-02-05 09:31:45 UTC
The option conflicts with grammar checking. See explanation at the end of issue
69451.
Comment 5 scagni 2009-02-05 11:42:33 UTC
I have read the completely reasonable explanation of how grammar checking
conflicts with the "all languages" option.
Still, IMHO things should always be considered from different points of view. I
do not doubt a lot of people will appreciate grammar checking functionality:
those who write in languages they do not fully master, as well as those who
write in a hurry and spend little time perfecting their texts.
Personally, writing teaching texts and scientific works, triple proofreading is
necessary in any case and no combination of grammar-spell checking can
adequately take its place.
On the contrary, I very often happen to deal with sentences or clauses where
there is a mix of 2 languages: one is the main language there but the other is
still necessary because it is commonplace to leave the name of a lot of things
in the original language (e.g. institutions, medium sized town and regions, and
so on).
For these reasons, the ideal configuration would in my opinion be one where:
- you can choose if you want grammar check together with spell check or not;
- in the former case, the all languages option is not available; 
- in the latter case, you can choose to have your spell check in 2 or more
languages with the all languages option.
By the way, while I can see the "grammar" item in the list of check, there is no
item of this kind in OO3.0.1 for English or Italian. So I suppose grammar check
is coming along but not standard fare yet?
Thanks for the attention.
Comment 6 stefan.baltzer 2009-02-20 12:52:06 UTC
*** Issue 99457 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 7 bibliography 2009-03-06 15:30:39 UTC
this was imho a very useful feature for scientific texts where you often have to
deal with different languages, with quotations and citations!
Comment 8 wolfgang_pfalzgraf 2009-09-02 12:33:32 UTC
I would like to have "in allen sprachen Prüfen" back in the German Oo.
I'm teaching in bilingual classes.  
Comment 9 intervenante 2009-11-18 20:30:24 UTC
I really would like it come back !!!!
Comment 10 eric.savary 2009-11-26 02:11:56 UTC
*** Issue 107223 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 11 logicdaemon 2009-11-26 07:26:17 UTC
spell checking becomes semi-manual in mixed-language texts thus useless without 
"all languages", because each word without properly selected language is 
treated as misspelled. This issue becomes even worse:
- when large part of document is prepared in another editor and pasted to OOo
- when OS keyboard input switcher does not support switching locales (switches 
only layout)
- with programs like X Neural Switcher (Linux,FreeBSD), {PuntoSwitcher,Keyboard 
Ninja,Key Switcher}(Win32) because they only change layout not switching 
language.
Comment 12 vulcain 2012-06-17 08:43:14 UTC
*** This issue has been confirmed by popular vote. ***