Issue 99781 - Chart: text layout at different zoom levels has different problems
Summary: Chart: text layout at different zoom levels has different problems
Alias: None
Product: Draw
Classification: Application
Component: viewing (show other issues)
Version: OOo 3.0.1
Hardware: PC All
: P3 Trivial (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
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Reported: 2009-03-02 14:24 UTC by baumux
Modified: 2013-09-25 20:41 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Issue Type: DEFECT
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Example font kerning in Chart (25.70 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.spreadsheet)
2009-03-02 14:25 UTC, baumux
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Example font kerning in Chart (22.83 KB, application/pdf)
2009-03-02 14:26 UTC, baumux
no flags Details
example document (34.94 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.spreadsheet)
2009-03-25 04:00 UTC, weiz
no flags Details
example document (35.41 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.spreadsheet)
2009-04-02 02:45 UTC, weiz
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Description baumux 2009-03-02 14:24:24 UTC
Font Kerning in Chart does not work properly. For example, see the word
"Anderswo" in the attached files.
Comment 1 baumux 2009-03-02 14:25:27 UTC
Created attachment 60596 [details]
Example font kerning in Chart
Comment 2 baumux 2009-03-02 14:26:17 UTC
Created attachment 60597 [details]
Example font kerning in Chart
Comment 3 IngridvdM 2009-03-05 09:20:35 UTC
I can confirm the problem.
Comment 4 IngridvdM 2009-03-05 11:12:46 UTC
@weiz, please have a look.
Comment 5 weiz 2009-03-25 04:00:51 UTC
Created attachment 61163 [details]
example document
Comment 6 weiz 2009-03-25 04:01:44 UTC
The error is caused by Zoom feature and the font itself.
Everything is OK when the zoom factor is 100%. if change the zoom factor, no
matter zoom in or zoom out, the error occured.
The error occured while different fonts under different settings.
Please look at the example document to get the detail information.
Comment 7 weiz 2009-04-02 02:45:33 UTC
Created attachment 61351 [details]
example document
Comment 8 weiz 2009-04-02 02:46:16 UTC
@iha, the new example document is attached.
Comment 9 IngridvdM 2009-04-02 12:38:01 UTC
Thanks, weiz! The new example document shows that the font kerning problems do
occur also within calc depending on different font settings and zoom. So this is
a more global problem -> reassigning to hdu.
@hdu, please have a look whether it is possible to get a correct font kerning
also if zoom (or map mode) is not exactly 100%. Thanks!
Comment 10 2009-08-27 16:13:16 UTC
@iha: the problem here is a typical problem. Desc4 in issue 88539 or Desc12 in issue 51508 have good details:
You layout the text for 100%, then request it to be displayed at a different zoom level with "I want each glyph 
positions to be as close as possible to its position in to 100% layout!". Since fonts scale non-linearly on most 
systems this wish is not compatible with "I want the text to look as natural as if it was layouted for this particular 
zoom level".

Understanding these options is the first step. Then decide what you really want. Maybe it is "I want the text to 
look as natural as if it was layouted for that magnification level" and "I do not want the text to reflow when the 
magnification level changes". This means that you would want to layout at 100%, measure the line breaks there 
and apply them for the different zoom level but with the glyphs at their visually-optimal positions instead of their 
as-close-as-possible to their 100%-layout positions. This would lead to different problems when the resulting text 
in a different zoom level runs e.g. into your clipped regions.

So, what are the priorities? Optimal readability, optimal WYSIWIG with printing and PDF-export, minimal problems 
with reflow and clipping, etc.
Comment 11 IngridvdM 2009-08-27 16:30:03 UTC
My priority for the chart would be Optimal readability without strange looking
distances between characters. How can I get this? Have I to make some settings
on a ref device?
Comment 12 2009-08-28 07:34:02 UTC
> [...] optimal readability without strange looking distances between characters

If a DrawTextArray() is involved then either make sure that neither it's argument pDXArray is not set 
(==NULL)  nor its nLayoutWidth is set (==0). Setting either of these overrides "I want optimal readability" 
with "trust me that I really know what I am doing by requesting exactly this layout". Since a 
DrawTextArray() call without these two argument can be replaced with a simple DrawText() you might 
want to do this.
Comment 13 IngridvdM 2009-08-28 09:09:29 UTC
> DrawTextArray() / DrawText()
I do not use these methods, at least not directly. I am creating Text Shapes via
UNO API and then I use the Draw View for rendering purposes and also for
creation of meta files. So is there a chance for application developers to
influence the necessary settings or is this something that maybe needs to be
offered first by a core developer? Thanks for your support, Herbert!
Comment 14 2009-08-31 15:43:33 UTC
Reassigning back as agreed in our debug session: somewhere between chart creation and vcl-drawing 
some layout adjustments are done that introduce the problem...
Comment 15 IngridvdM 2009-09-08 16:53:41 UTC
I don't think that I can do here something for 3.2 here. The code where things
happen is not mine, so this will take bigger investments to dive into.
Furthermore there are additional clipping problems with proper text layout. And
I haven't expected that the text sizes are that different ... .
Shifting target due to missing resources.