Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla – Issue 99972
Quichua or Quechua
Last modified: 2013-08-07 15:02:13 UTC
I open this issue on the I10n component in addition to lingucomponent (http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=99603), because I see a similar issue has been successfully resolved for Quechua (http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=80114). Please add to the language list selection box "Kichwa (Ecuador)" represented by the code qu_EC An OOOv3 (.oxt) dictionary has been written (http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/KichwaSpellchecker) and is under improvement. However, it's hijacking the "Norwegian (Bokmal)" language code until Kichwa can be selected in the language list selection box. Sorry to half-double-post this; I couldn't figure out how to reassign issue #99603 to I10n like the resolved issue #80114.
*** Issue 99603 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
'qu' is a macrolanguage code, see http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=que Which of the various individual Quichua languages in Ecuador would that be and is your dictionary intended for? See http://www.ethnologue.com/show_country.asp?name=EC Quichua, Chimborazo Highland [qug], with 1,000,000 speakers being the most widely used?
Hi the Kichwa academy is located in Ambato, province of Chimborazo. http://www.dineib.edu.ec/kamak.htm However, Shukllachishka Kichwa (unified Kichwa) is a new ortography for all the Quichua dialects in Ecuador. There are plans for making Kichwa an official language, and a unified orthography is needed. So I wrote to SIL.org to open a new language identifier for the Unified Kichwa, but the answer was no: http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/criteria2.html says quite clearly that new orthographies are not given new codes. In total, since 1) it seemed incorrect to assign the unified Kichwa to only one of the dialects and 2) Kichwa is [probably] becoming an official language for Ecuador, I assumed qu_EC would be the most accurate description. qu for "a Quechua dialect", EC for Ecuador. If we have to choose one specific dialect, I assume "qxl" would be closest due to the fact that it is the dialect spoken around Ambato, where the Kichwa academy is located. However, as stated above, the unified Kichwa is not pure Salasaca Quichua, but a unification. http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambato compared to http://www.ethnologue.com/show_country.asp?name=EC and http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=que
OH sorry Ambato is located in the Tunguragua province, not Chimborazo...
Do you need any further information?
any further info needed?
No, no further information, please, what's available is already confusing enough ;-) I'm undecided. MS assigned LCID 0x086B for Quechua Ecuador, but in http://www.microsoft.com/resources/msdn/goglobal/default.mspx they map 'quz' to all 3, Bolivia, Ecuador and Peru, which I consider wrong anyway. Maybe using qu-EC would be best in our situation. So yes, let's go for qu-EC.
ok sorry for the confusion... I think you're right about micro/soft being wrotg there - quz is the code for "Cusco Quichua", and it is even a different quechua branch from the one in use in Ecuador (Compare "Northern" and "Southern" explicatory texts on): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quechua_II I'll notify the Kichwa academy the good news :)
Reassigning to spare time account.
In cws locales32: revision 273188 i18npool/source/isolang/isolang.cxx svtools/source/misc/langtab.src
Reassigning to QA for verification.
Verified in CWS locales32. In language list box, there are 3 entries for Quechua: - Quechua (Bolivia, North) - Quechua (Bolivia, South) - Quechua (Ecuador) Adjusted summary to reflect the findings (removed "Kichwa")
Yup I think Quechua is best. I see that http://watchtower.org/languages.htm list Kichwa with the english name _Quichua_. While http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quechua#Language.2FDialect_Groupings says the english name is _Quechua_. I don't know which is correct, but to me all the Quechuan languages are so similar that it would be less confusing leaving it as commited: Quechua (Ecuador)
OK in DEV300_m60. Closed.