Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla – Issue 11571
Changing <?> to {?}
Last modified: 2013-08-07 14:55:07 UTC
Would it be possible to change the placeholder from <?> to {?}. That would simplify things like writing fractions and other things in need of grouping.
Do you use the selection box? If so, since you probably already use the mouse a lot, how about double clicking on the place-holders in the graphic display? This will select the text for the place-holder in the command window. Does that suit you? Did you notice that you can travel between those markers by pressing (I think) F2 and shift-F2 in the command window? If this suits your needs just put a response in this bug and I will close it, otherwise I'll pass it on for someone to decide abouzt this. Though I have to say that the chances are it won't be changed because since it is already used this way a long time, the import/export of already existing documents with formulas would need to be changed accordingly.
Personally i don't use the selection box very often, I find it much faster to "code" the formulas by hand. But as physics and math teacher, I have to teach my pupils how to use the formula editor, and they almost always use the mouse and the selection box, and my reason for suggesting the change from <?> to {?} is simply at matter of convenience for selection box-users, since I find that the <?> is very rarely substituted by a single number or letter, but by things that need grouping anyway. And e.g. 1 and {1} is already treated the same way by the editor today. Double-clicking placeholders in the graphic display doesn't always work the way you would expect, e.g. if you want to add the fractions 1/n and 1/m to get (m-n)/mn, you have to type {m-n} in the placeholder, not just m-n as you reasonably could expect. That kind of problems would be resolved by the suggested change. I'm not really sure I understand how and why this will affect old formulae, but this is not the right forum for discussing taht, I think. I'm not really sure I understand how and why this will affect old formulae, but that's not
How about replacing <?> by {<?>} in the selection menu and the context menu of the command window? Would that be OK? It can also be considered to replace <?> by sth. like {X}. Of course then no placeholder icon will be displayes but only an X. Any other suggestions? I still would need approval for the change though. About old formulas: If you like having {?} work like <?> (and still displaying the placeholder icon) it will effect old formulas since when loading <?> it has to be translated into {?} while loading. Also the parser needs to be change. The main issue is if you like to have {?} being displayed as the placeholder icon. To replace the text <?> that gets inserted in the command window by another one (without further special effects) is a simple matter.
Replacing <?> with {<?>} would be OK, that would surely solve the "fraction problem" I mentioned earlier. (And it might please former MathType/ Equation editor - users that "boxes" behave the way they're used to ;-)) Although I prefer keeping symbols as simple as possible, I think replacing <?> with {X} might be confusing, if it means that no placeholder will be displayed.
TL->BH: To you for decision.
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