Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla – Issue 125985
Corrections for EN UI and Help (v4.2.0)
Last modified: 2019-10-03 16:21:00 UTC
In the process of translating the UI and Help files, every once in a while, I run into strings which seem to need correction in the English source. I am opening this issue to list those strings and describe what needs fixing in them.
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\shared.po String: main0108.xhp#par_id2783898.help.text <ahelp hid=".">Enable an Internet connection for %PRODUCTNAME. If you need a Proxy, check the %PRODUCTNAME Proxy settings in <switchinline select="sys"><caseinline select="MAC">%PRODUCTNAME - Preferences</caseinline><defaultinline>Tools - Options</defaultinline></switchinline> - Internet. Then choose <switchinline select="sys"><caseinline select="MAC">%PRODUCTNAME - Preferences</caseinline><defaultinline>Tools - Options</defaultinline></switchinline> - Online Update - Check for Updates to check for the availability of a newer version of your office suite.</ahelp> The path specified after "Then choose [...]" is: Tools - Options - Online Update... It should be: Tools - Options - OpenOffice - Online Update...
Path: ...aoo40-lt\officecfg\registry\data\org\openoffice\Office\UI.po: String: #: WriterCommands.xcu#..WriterCommands.UserInterface.Commands..uno_InsertFootnote.Label.value.text msgid "Insert Footnote/Endnote Directly" Instead, the text should be "Insert Footnote".
Help description for Writer - Insert - Index and Tables - Index and Tables... - Entries tab - All button is bad. In par_id3155137 of /text/swriter/01/04120221.xhp file describes: > Applies the current settings without closing the dialog. But the All button applies the settings of the current level shown in the tab page to the other levels.
"b" character is lacked from word "box" in paragraph par_id3155898 of swriter/guide/header_with_chapter.xhp > In the <item type="menuitem">Style</item> ox,
UI, issue 116863
issue 28353
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\shared.po String: main0213.xhp#bm_id3157896.help.text <bookmark_value>toolbars; Form Navigation bar</bookmark_value><bookmark_value>Navigation bar;forms</bookmark_value><bookmark_value>sorting; data in forms</bookmark_value><bookmark_value>data; sorting in forms</bookmark_value><bookmark_value>forms;sorting data</bookmark_value> Comment: some instances of semicolon are followed by a space, some are not.
(In reply to Aivaras Stepukonis from comment #2) > Path: ...aoo40-lt\officecfg\registry\data\org\openoffice\Office\UI.po: > > String: #: > WriterCommands.xcu#..WriterCommands.UserInterface.Commands.. > uno_InsertFootnote.Label.value.text > > msgid "Insert Footnote/Endnote Directly" > > Instead, the text should be "Insert Footnote". Correct wording should be: "Insert Footnote Directly"
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\shared.po String: main0650.xhp#par_id9116183.help.text Before you can use a JDBC driver, you need to add its class path. Choose <switchinline select="sys"><caseinline select="MAC">%PRODUCTNAME - Preferences</caseinline><defaultinline>Tools - Options</defaultinline></switchinline> - %PRODUCTNAME- Java, and click the Class Path button. After you add the path information, restart %PRODUCTNAME. Is: %PRODUCTNAME- Should be: %PRODUCTNAME -
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\shared.po String: main0650.xhp#par_id3153822.11.help.text Your modifications at the <emph><switchinline select="sys"><caseinline select="MAC">%PRODUCTNAME - Preferences</caseinline><defaultinline>Tools - Options</defaultinline></switchinline> - $[officename] - Java</emph> tab page will be used even if the Java Virtual Machine (JVM, a virtual machine for the Java platform) already has been started. After modifications to the ClassPath you must restart $[officename]. The same is true for modifications under <emph><switchinline select="sys"><caseinline select="MAC">%PRODUCTNAME - Preferences</caseinline><defaultinline>Tools - Options</defaultinline></switchinline> - Internet - Proxy</emph>. Only the two boxes "Http Proxy" and "Ftp Proxy" and their ports don't require a restart, they will be evaluated when you click <emph>OK</emph>. Is: Http Proxy Should be: HTTP Proxy Is: Ftp Proxy Should be: FTP Proxy
"kschenk" committed SVN revision 1653397 into trunk: #i125985# Suggested by: Aivaras Stepukonis Comment #1
"kschenk" committed SVN revision 1653398 into trunk: #i125985# Suggested by: Aivaras Stepukonis Comment #7
"kschenk" committed SVN revision 1653401 into trunk: #i125985# Suggested by: Aivaras Stepukonis Comment #9
Text incongruity between UI and Help. In UI we have: #: DrawImpressCommands.xcu#..DrawImpressCommands.UserInterface.Commands..uno_ShowRuler.Label.value.text msgid "Ruler" and #: WriterCommands.xcu#..WriterCommands.UserInterface.Commands..uno_Ruler.Label.value.text msgid "Ruler" In both instances, the word "Ruler" is in the singular. It should be in the plural, though, as it refers collectively to both the vertical and horizontal rulers. The plural would be consistent with references to the same item in Help. See: Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\simpress.po String: main0209.xhp#par_id3153820.3.help.text To show or hide the rulers, choose <link href="text/simpress/01/03060000.xhp" name="View - Rulers"><emph>View - Rulers</emph></link>. Here the same item is correctly referred to in the plural (i.e. "Rulers").
(In reply to Aivaras Stepukonis from comment #10) > Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\shared.po > > String: main0650.xhp#par_id3153822.11.help.text > > Your modifications at the <emph><switchinline select="sys"><caseinline > select="MAC">%PRODUCTNAME - Preferences</caseinline><defaultinline>Tools - > Options</defaultinline></switchinline> - $[officename] - Java</emph> tab > page will be used even if the Java Virtual Machine (JVM, a virtual machine > for the Java platform) already has been started. After modifications to the > ClassPath you must restart $[officename]. The same is true for modifications > under <emph><switchinline select="sys"><caseinline select="MAC">%PRODUCTNAME > - Preferences</caseinline><defaultinline>Tools - > Options</defaultinline></switchinline> - Internet - Proxy</emph>. Only the > two boxes "Http Proxy" and "Ftp Proxy" and their ports don't require a > restart, they will be evaluated when you click <emph>OK</emph>. > > Is: Http Proxy > > Should be: HTTP Proxy > > Is: Ftp Proxy > > Should be: FTP Proxy I failed to note that revision 1653401 also fixed this one.
re comments 2 & 8. The Writer User guide refers to both Footnotes and Endnotes, so I am not sure anything should be changed here. https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Writer_Guide/Using_footnotes_and_endnotes I will continue to work on other issues here.
(In reply to Kay from comment #16) > re comments 2 & 8. > > The Writer User guide refers to both Footnotes and Endnotes, so I am not > sure anything should be changed here. > > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/ > Writer_Guide/Using_footnotes_and_endnotes > > I will continue to work on other issues here. The issue concerns the caption text that shows up when hovering the mouse over the tool button for inserting a footnote. That is to say, it occurs in the UI, not in the Help (i.e. User guide).
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\smath.po String: main0503.xhp#par_id3153001.4.help.text <ahelp hid="HID_SMA_COMMAND_WIN_EDIT">Use the $[officename] Math Commands window to enter and edit formulas. As you make entries in the Commands window, you see the results in the document.</ahelp> To maintain an overview when creating long and complicated formulas, use the Formula Cursor on the Tools bar. When this function is activated, the cursor location within the Commands window is also shown in the text window. I'm having some doubts about the expressions (1) "Commands window" and (2) "document" in the sentence "As you make entries in the Commands window, you see the results in the document". Regarding (1): it is more of a pane than a window. A window is what one opens by choosing Window - New Window. (1) is just a part of that window, i.e. a pane. (Interestingly enough, this very pane is called "the equation editor" on "http://www.openoffice.org/product/math.html"). Regarding (2): it would seem more accurate to refer to it as a document pane or, as it is done later on in the paragraph, the "text window" (i.e. "text pane").
To follow up on Comment 18, "commands window" may be defined as "formula input pane" or "formula entry pane" and "document" or "text window" as "formula view pane".
"hanya" committed SVN revision 1654634 into trunk: #i125985# wrong description about All button on index dialog, Comment 3
"hanya" committed SVN revision 1654635 into trunk: #i125985# character b lacked from word box, Comment 4
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter.po String: main0213.xhp#par_id3154239.3.help.text By double-clicking on the ruler, you can open the <emph>Paragraph</emph> dialog and assign <link href="text/shared/00/00000005.xhp#formatierung" name="direct paragraph formatting">direct paragraph formatting</link> for the current paragraph or all selected paragraphs. Is: ...on the ruler... should be: ...on the horizontal ruler...
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter.po String: main0503.xhp#par_id3147768.5.help.text $[officename] Writer lets you create both basic documents, such as memos, <link href="text/shared/guide/fax.xhp" name="faxes">faxes</link>, letters , resumes and <link href="text/swriter/01/01150000.xhp" name="merge documents">merge documents</link>, as well as long and complex or multi-part documents, complete with bibliographies, reference tables and indexes. Is: ..., letters ,... Should be: ..., letters,...
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter.po String: main0503.xhp#par_id3147239.10.help.text $[officename] offers a wide variety of options to design documents. Use the <link href="text/swriter/01/05140000.xhp" name="Styles">Styles and Formatting window</link> to create, assign and modify styles for paragraphs, individual characters, frames and pages. In addition, the <link href="text/swriter/01/02110000.xhp" name="Navigator">Navigator</link> helps you to quickly move around inside your documents, lets you look at your document in an outline view, and keeps track of the objects that you have inserted into your document. Is: $[officename]... Should be: $[officename] Writer...
(In reply to Aivaras Stepukonis from comment #17) > (In reply to Kay from comment #16) > > re comments 2 & 8. > > > > The Writer User guide refers to both Footnotes and Endnotes, so I am not > > sure anything should be changed here. > > > > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/ > > Writer_Guide/Using_footnotes_and_endnotes > > > > I will continue to work on other issues here. > > The issue concerns the caption text that shows up when hovering the mouse > over the tool button for inserting a footnote. That is to say, it occurs in > the UI, not in the Help (i.e. User guide). I understand that and since these two terms are referenced in the User Guide and presumably by users, the existing UI menu item "Insert Footnote/Endnote Directly" should be left as it is. Well the "Directly" could be omitted I guess. These terms are also used in the Insert menu item.
(In reply to Kay from comment #25) > (In reply to Aivaras Stepukonis from comment #17) > > (In reply to Kay from comment #16) > > > re comments 2 & 8. > > > > > > The Writer User guide refers to both Footnotes and Endnotes, so I am not > > > sure anything should be changed here. > > > > > > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/ > > > Writer_Guide/Using_footnotes_and_endnotes > > > > > > I will continue to work on other issues here. > > > > The issue concerns the caption text that shows up when hovering the mouse > > over the tool button for inserting a footnote. That is to say, it occurs in > > the UI, not in the Help (i.e. User guide). > > I understand that and since these two terms are referenced in the User Guide > and presumably by users, the existing UI menu item "Insert Footnote/Endnote > Directly" should be left as it is. Well the "Directly" could be omitted I > guess. > > These terms are also used in the Insert menu item. I understand the motive for doing so, but I cannot justify it because the description remains false: one cannot insert endnotes by clicking the icon that allows inserting footnotes and only footnotes.
Path: ...\aoo40-lt\sw\source\ui\utlui.po String: #: poolfmt.src#STR_POOLCOLL_HTML_BLOCKQUOTE.string.text Is: "Quotations" Should probably be: "Citation"
(In reply to Aivaras Stepukonis from comment #26) > (In reply to Kay from comment #25) > > (In reply to Aivaras Stepukonis from comment #17) > > > (In reply to Kay from comment #16) > > > > re comments 2 & 8. > > > > > > > > The Writer User guide refers to both Footnotes and Endnotes, so I am not > > > > sure anything should be changed here. > > > > > > > > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/ > > > > Writer_Guide/Using_footnotes_and_endnotes > > > > > > > > I will continue to work on other issues here. > > > > > > The issue concerns the caption text that shows up when hovering the mouse > > > over the tool button for inserting a footnote. That is to say, it occurs in > > > the UI, not in the Help (i.e. User guide). > > > > I understand that and since these two terms are referenced in the User Guide > > and presumably by users, the existing UI menu item "Insert Footnote/Endnote > > Directly" should be left as it is. Well the "Directly" could be omitted I > > guess. > > > > These terms are also used in the Insert menu item. > > I understand the motive for doing so, but I cannot justify it because the > description remains false: one cannot insert endnotes by clicking the icon > that allows inserting footnotes and only footnotes. The only change I see that is needed here is in the description on the toolbar button. The button that says insert footnote/endnot directly should be changed to insert footnote directly as this is what the button does. There is already a button to insert endnote directly. The use of the word directly is correct English in that those buttons by-pass the insert dialog thereby inserting the footnote or end note directly into the document.
(In reply to Keith N. McKenna from comment #28) > The only change I see that is needed here is in the description on the > toolbar button. The button that says insert footnote/endnot directly should > be changed to insert footnote directly as this is what the button does. > There is already a button to insert endnote directly. The use of the word > directly is correct English in that those buttons by-pass the insert dialog > thereby inserting the footnote or end note directly into the document. +1
(In reply to jolatt from comment #29) (In reply to Keith N. McKenna from comment #28) > > > The only change I see that is needed here is in the description on the > toolbar button. The button that says insert footnote/endnot directly should > be changed to insert footnote directly as this is what the button does. > There is already a button to insert endnote directly. The use of the word > directly is correct English in that those buttons by-pass the insert dialog > thereby inserting the footnote or end note directly into the document. It is correct, yet redundant and as such out of place. The description of a toolbar icon should be treated as a case of contextual classification, not of the general taxonomy of the software (as, say, in a conceptually laid out manual). Let visit the local groceries shop and look at the department names: Bread | Dairy | Meat | Beverages | Candy All good. But what if one finds: Bread | Dairy | Pork | Beverages | Candy Wrong classification! A particular type of meat is juxtaposed to more general types of food. Same goes for describing as "Insert Footnote Directly" (pork) what should simply be "Insert Footnote" (meat). Let us mind the context - it is a description of an icon side-by-side with other icons, in a toolbar side-by-side with other toolbars: ...New | Open | Page Preview | Bold | Italics | Gallery | Special Character... It is not the right place to distinguish between different types of inserting footnotes (they're not even being juxtaposed here as options) because one is distinguishing here between different types of tools (printing vs opening, previewing vs navigating and so on). So a better idea in this particular case to just say "meat" instead of specifying it's "pork" (even if that meat is in fact pork). That is to say, "Insert Footnote" is more adequate to the immediate context of the icon than "Insert Footnote Directly."
(In reply to Aivaras Stepukonis from comment #30) > So a better idea in this particular case to just say "meat" instead of > specifying it's "pork" (even if that meat is in fact pork). That is to say, > "Insert Footnote" is more adequate to the immediate context of the icon than > "Insert Footnote Directly." No and no over again. "Insert Footnote Directly" describes the beviour correctly. And consider that other insert functions open a dialog and/or have a dropdown list for further settings/options.
(In reply to jolatt from comment #31) > (In reply to Aivaras Stepukonis from comment #30) > > > So a better idea in this particular case to just say "meat" instead of > > specifying it's "pork" (even if that meat is in fact pork). That is to say, > > "Insert Footnote" is more adequate to the immediate context of the icon than > > "Insert Footnote Directly." > > No and no over again. > > "Insert Footnote Directly" describes the beviour correctly. > And consider that other insert functions open a dialog and/or have a > dropdown list for further settings/options. I've make my point. We seem to disagree (I say "seem" because from your remark I'm not sure you're getting my point). It's cool. Let's move on.
"kschenk" committed SVN revision 1658822 into trunk: #i125985# Suggested by Keith McKenna, Comment 28.
(In reply to jolatt from comment #31) > And consider that other insert functions open a dialog and/or have a > dropdown list for further settings/options. That is the reason why ellipsis are added to commands. +1 to dropping the word "directly".
Path: ...\aoo40-lt\sd\source\ui String: #: menuids3_tmpl.src#MN_ENTER_GROUP_IMPRESS.SID_ENTER_GROUP.menuitem.text Path: ...\aoo40-lt\svx String: #: globlmn_tmpl.hrc#ITEM_POPUP_ENTER_GROUP.#define.text Is: "Edit Group" Should be: "Enter Group" Why: 1) "Edit Group" is the opposite action of "Exit Group"; 2) "Edit Group" allows editing the individual objects constituting the group and not the group itself (i.e. it allows entering the group and editing its constituents, not the group itself).
Sorry, the paths were incomplete. The first one: ...\aoo40-lt\sd\source\ui\app.po The second one: ...aoo40-lt\svx\inc.po
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po String: 00000401.xhp#par_id3146962.33.help.text <variable id="sendenautoabstract">Choose <emph>File - Send - Create AutoAbstract</emph></variable> Is: File - Send - Create AutoAbstract Should be: File - Send - Create AutoAbstract...
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po 00000401.xhp#par_id3156397.34.help.text <variable id="sendenpraeser">Choose <emph>File - Send - AutoAbstract to Presentation</emph></variable> Is: File - Send - AutoAbstract to Presentation Should be: File - Send - AutoAbstract to Presentation...
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po 00000402.xhp#par_id3154485.2.help.text Choose <emph>Edit - AutoText</emph> Is: Edit - AutoText Should be: Edit - AutoText...
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po 00000402.xhp#par_id3149349.5.help.text <variable id="datenaust">Choose <emph>Edit - Exchange Database</emph></variable> Is: Edit - Exchange Database Should be: Edit - Exchange Database...
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po 00000402.xhp#par_id3146316.6.help.text <variable id="feldbefehl">Choose <emph>Edit - Fields</emph></variable> Is: Edit - Fields Should be: Edit - Fields...
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po 00000402.xhp#par_id3154505.7.help.text <variable id="fussnote">Choose <emph>Edit - Footnotes</emph></variable> Is: Edit - Footnotes Should be: Edit - Footnote/Endnote...
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po 00000402.xhp#par_id3153737.8.help.text Choose <emph>Edit - Index Entry</emph> Is: Edit - Index Entry Should be: Edit - Index Entry...
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po 00000402.xhp#par_id3148769.9.help.text <variable id="bereiche">Choose <emph>Format - Sections</emph></variable> Is: Format - Sections Should be: Format - Sections...
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po 00000402.xhp#par_id3147168.17.help.text <variable id="lit">Choose <emph>Edit - Bibliography Entry</emph></variable> Is: Edit - Bibliography Entry Should be: Edit - Bibliography Entry...
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po 00000404.xhp#par_id3149130.2.help.text <variable id="manuellerumbruch">Choose <emph>Insert - Manual Break</emph></variable> Is: Insert - Manual Break Should be: Insert - Manual Break...
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po 00000404.xhp#par_id3148386.4.help.text Choose <emph>Insert - Fields - Other</emph></variable> Is: Insert - Fields - Other Should be: Insert - Fields - Other...
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po 00000404.xhp#par_id3145411.63.help.text Choose <emph>Insert - Cross-reference</emph> Is: Insert - Cross-reference Should be: Insert - Cross-reference...
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po 00000404.xhp#par_id3149810.7.help.text Choose <emph>Insert - Section</emph> Is: Insert - Section Should be: Insert - Section...
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po 00000404.xhp#par_id3155899.69.help.text <variable id="bereicheinbereich">Choose <emph>Insert - Section - Section</emph> tab or choose <emph>Format - Sections</emph></variable> Is: Insert - Section - Section Should be: Insert - Section... - Section
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po 00000404.xhp#par_id3154197.103.help.text <variable id="sectionindents">Choose <emph>Insert - Section - Indents</emph> tab or choose <emph>Format - Sections</emph></variable> Is: Insert - Section... - Indents Should be: Insert - Section... - Section Is: Format - Sections Should be: Format - Sections...
OK, there are too many instances of omitted "..." in the description of menu items to cite them all here. I would suggest to go over the whole document and insert the missing "...", making references to menu item precise.
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po String: 00000405.xhp#par_idN10739.help.text Is: Open <emph>Styles and Formatting</emph> window. Click the <emph>New Style from Selection</emph> icon and keep the mouse button pressed. Choose <emph>Load Styles</emph> from the submenu. Should be: Open <emph>Styles and Formatting</emph> window. Click the <emph>New Style from Selection</emph> icon and choose <emph>Load Styles</emph> from the submenu. Note: there is actually no need to keep the mouse button pressed.
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po String: 00000405.xhp#par_id3149109.29.help.text Is: Choose <emph>Format - Styles and Formatting -</emph> open context menu <emph>Modify/New - Footnote</emph> tab Should be: Choose <emph>Format - Styles and Formatting -</emph> open context menu <emph>Modify/New - Footnote</emph> tab (for Page Styles)
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po String: 00000405.xhp#par_id3147094.159.help.text Is: Choose <emph>Format - Sections - Options</emph> button <emph>Footnotes/Endnotes</emph> tab Should be: Choose <emph>Format - Sections - Options</emph> button - <emph>Footnotes/Endnotes</emph> tab
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po String: 00000405.xhp#par_id3156364.142.help.text Is: Choose <emph>Format - Styles and Formatting -</emph> open context menu <emph>Modify/New</emph> (for Numbering Styles) Should be: Choose <emph>Format - Styles and Formatting -</emph> open context menu <emph>Modify/New</emph> (for List Styles)
Well, all these modifications can be input through Github: https://github.com/apache/openoffice You can propose directly some push requests about that.