Issue 40732 - Export to PDF embeds font with "no-embed" flag
Summary: Export to PDF embeds font with "no-embed" flag
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: save-export (show other issues)
Version: OOo 1.1.3
Hardware: PC All
: P3 Trivial (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
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Keywords: needmoreinfo, oooqa
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Reported: 2005-01-15 21:17 UTC by rbean
Modified: 2013-02-07 22:04 UTC (History)
5 users (show)

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Description rbean 2005-01-15 21:17:15 UTC
I was making some test documents comparing "Export to PDF" vs
printing to Adobe Distiller. Distiller refused to embed a font
because it contained a "don't embed me" flag, but Export to PDF
embedded it anyway.

It's up to you what you want to do about this, but the font
vendors might not be too happy if they found out about it. The
specific font in question was Lucida Bright, from the Java SDK
(most Linux distributions seem to include it, and I think OS-X
also has it). Given the relationship between ooo and Sun, they
might want this fixed.
Comment 1 michael.ruess 2005-01-16 09:46:38 UTC
reassigned to HI.
Comment 2 flibby05 2005-05-02 20:40:41 UTC
hello rbean,
thanks for reporting this!
just a quick question: do you know how to determine this "don't embed me" flag
for a certain font?
thank you in advance,
Max, OOo Volunteer
Comment 3 rbean 2005-05-04 18:21:41 UTC
I don't know the details, but it should be in the Truetype specs.

Here's some code that flips the bits to allow embedding,
it should give you some hints about where to look:

This page has links to the Truetype specs (MSWord format):

Comment 4 h.ilter 2005-05-09 10:00:12 UTC
Issue type is changed from defect to enhancement.
Comment 5 pesala 2008-03-26 22:16:18 UTC
I have to say that this issue is a clear defect, not an enhancement.

Restricted License embedding

Fonts that have this flag set must not be modified, embedded or exchanged in 
any manner without first obtaining permission of the legal owner.

This is a very old issue. Hasn't this been fixed yet? 
I couldn't find a font with Restricted license embedding to test it. 
Comment 6 phil_ 2008-03-28 11:03:40 UTC
I tested it, embedding of fonts with restricted license works.

But I do not agree to change the behavior in the sort to make it impossible to
embed these type of fonts.
I think it may not be the decision of the software, but of the user whether he
does embed the font.
License restrictions may not apply in some countries, so it would be a drawback
if the software could not do it.

OOo could issue a warning when restricted fonts are to be embedded and could
leave the choice to the user.

Also, other PDF creator utilities do allow embedding restricted fonts as well,
which I see as a hint that the sole function of a software doing this is not
illegal as such.

However, I need to point out that I am not a jurist. So it may be a good advice
to discuss this matter with an industrial lawyer.
Comment 7 matthias.mueller-prove 2009-09-06 10:24:44 UTC
I am no longer officially active on OOo. Please take over.
Comment 8 lymwaydurchting 2010-11-10 17:01:10 UTC
Created attachment 73357