Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla – Issue 44087
RTF format of footnotes and endnotes is not recognized by RTF scan of Endnote 7 or 8
Last modified: 2017-05-20 11:25:54 UTC
Endnote 7 and 8 bibliographic management software has an RTF scan feature which allows you to use it with OpenOffice as long as OpenOffice documents are saved in RTF format. However, the Endnote scan of such documents does not find unformatted Endnote citations placed in OpenOffice footnotes or endnotes, making it incompatible with OpenOffice unless you use inline references such as MLA format, which is impossible for many users due to style requirements of institutions and journals. Endnote support claims this is a problem with the way OpenOffice formats its footnotes and endnotes in RTF. This is also an issue in earlier versions of OpenOffice.
At the moment, I do not understand by "unformatted Endnotes" and "inline references". Could you please attach such a document (in .odt format) which makes the described problems when saving to RTF? BTW: when using footnotes/endnotes in OO and then exporting to RTF, the file can be opened and displayd well in MS Word (which is the reference for RTF files) .
I've added a sample document (Endnote test doc.odt) which contains examples of unformatted Endnote citations, and a Endnote 7 database (test.enl) which contains the references, which you can use with the demo version of Endnote to run its RTF scan utility to format the citations if desired (if you use the Endnote 8 demo it will convert the database to its new format when you first try to open it). Both versions of Endnote will only find the unformatted citation which is in the main text of the document, and will not find the ones that appear in footnotes/endnotes, which Endnote support claims is an OpenOffice problem. (If run against an RTF document created by Word or WordPerfect it will detect the latter correctly) Note that capital E "Endnote" refers to the bibliographic management software, small e "endnote" to an OpenOffice endnote. It can be confusing if you are not familiar with the Endnote software and the various bibliographic styles (MLA, Chicago, Turabian, etc.) and where they appear in text/footnotes/endnotes.
Created attachment 23467 [details] Sample OO doc with unformatted Endnote citations
Created attachment 23468 [details] Sample Endnote 7 reference database
Just a final question: is Endnote 7 / 8 able to correctly recognize the endnotes from RTF files generated by MS Word?
Yes. (See last line of first paragraph in my second comment above).
MRU->FLR: it seems, that OO stores the endnotes differently than MS Word does. For a future version, we'll have to find out the differenct.
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Moreover, if you create a doc in Word, and add citations using Endnote (tested w/ Word 2003 and Endnote 9 on WinXP), the Endnote RTF Document Scan feature fails. 1. Create a doc in Word, and add citations using Endnote. 2. Using Word, Save As RTF. 3. Using Endnote, invoke RTF Document Scan on the RTF file from step 2. 4a. Open the RTF file in Word -- the bibliography at the end of the document is formatted correctly. 4b. Open the RTF file in OO 2.0.2 -- the bibliography is not formatted correctly. Apologies if this ought to be a separate bug.
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reassigning to hbrinkm
Has this issue be resolved in OpenOffice? I work for a medical journal where many authors submit manuscripts incorporate Endnote/Reference Manager in their MSWord docs. When I open such files in OpenOffice all the references at the end of the document as well as reference numbers in the body of the text are missing. I would really like to use OpenOffice to convert manuscript files into PDF using the facility available in Writer (it's so much quicker than Adobe Acrobat!) but I can't rely on it if these reference systems are not supported. Hope somebody can help. Mike
Reset assigne to the default "issues@openoffice.apache.org".