Issue 4849 - Entering formula editing mode also with '+' and '-', not only with =
Summary: Entering formula editing mode also with '+' and '-', not only with =
Status: CLOSED DUPLICATE of issue 20496
Alias: None
Product: Calc
Classification: Application
Component: code (show other issues)
Version: OOo 1.1 RC3
Hardware: All All
: P3 Trivial with 24 votes (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: niklas.nebel
QA Contact: issues@sc
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Keywords: oooqa
: 6615 18457 45707 53232 (view as issue list)
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2002-05-14 14:04 UTC by oblomov
Modified: 2013-08-07 15:15 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Issue Type: ENHANCEMENT
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Description oblomov 2002-05-14 14:04:37 UTC
Some spreadsheet users are used to enter formulas by preceding them with a +. This is more 
comfortable (1) for the keyboards where the + can be reached more easily than the = (2) for the 
operations which are sums (entering +a1+b2 is `better´ than having to enter =a1+b2).

Is it 
possible to add + to the list of keys recognized as formula editing more triggers?
Comment 1 frank 2002-05-15 09:27:43 UTC
Hi Falko,

I think we had such an Issue, but can not find it.

So 1 4 U.

Frank
Comment 2 frank 2002-07-29 07:29:16 UTC
*** Issue 6615 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 3 oblomov 2003-05-04 09:44:55 UTC
As suggested in issue 6615, marked as duplicate of this, both + and - 
should be accepted as formula starters (I'm posting this additional 
comments to make sure this particular "extra" doesn't get lost with 
the duplicate marking).
Comment 4 roman 2003-07-30 03:36:28 UTC
Yo también agregaría el "-" que es muy útil para cambiar de signo un 
resultado.
Comment 5 Unknown 2003-07-30 18:08:10 UTC
Lo de agregar "-" como se dice en otros comentarios no estoy de 
acuerdo. ¿por qué cambiar el signo al resultado de una operación, lo 
más lógico es poner su signo correspondiente y luego la operación 
entre paréntesis?? Creo que también una hoja de "cálculo" debe 
seguir bastante fielmente a las matemáticas y la lógica.
Lo del signo "+" es simbólico, por no comenzar con "=" en las 
fórmulas y utilizar las parte numérica del teclado solamente. 
Díganselo a los contables....
Comment 6 ggabriel 2003-08-16 03:33:52 UTC
My two votes for this one, it'd be so useful!
(it's all about workflow.)

thx for listening...
Gabriel Gazzán
Comment 7 frank 2003-08-21 18:57:48 UTC
*** Issue 18457 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 8 falko.tesch 2003-09-08 13:25:24 UTC
I concur:
We should behave like Excel.
Entering a + will add the value of the refrenced cell (behind the +)
and a - will substract the value of the refrenced cell (behind the -)
Comment 9 falko.tesch 2003-09-08 13:53:41 UTC
Addendum:
Quattro Pro 11 has this feature, too.
Comment 10 Rainer Bielefeld 2003-10-06 08:44:35 UTC
I agree with comment 
Additional Comments From Namor67 2003-07-29 19:36 PDT

So I change summary.

As far as I know EXCEL does not support formulas starting with "+" or
"-". Can an EXCEL expert (or owner) check that? If I am right this
must be considered for "save as XLS" by adding "=" at the beginning of
the formula for ".XLS". Because of this I add keyword
"ms_interoperability"

I still see the problem in
1.1RC3 German version WIN98SE: 645m15(Build8669) [CWS:ooo11rc3]
so I change Version.

Rainer

Comment 11 bettina.haberer 2003-11-06 09:03:42 UTC
Excel 2002 supports this feature. Hello Niklas, I also think this is a
useful enhancement.
Please give approval for this evaluated OO.o 2.0 flagged issue. 
If you confirm with the target OO.o 2.0, then please keep it on your
owner (or the owner of the concerning developer) for implementation.
In case you want this issue for 'OOo Later', then please reset the
target milestone. If you decline the issue finally, please set the
resolution to 'Wontfix' (but do not close). In case of 'OOo Later' or
'Wontfix' please reset it on Bettina's owner. Thank you.
Comment 12 niklas.nebel 2003-11-07 17:49:35 UTC
Already have the PCD issue 20496 for this.

*** This issue has been marked as a duplicate of 20496 ***
Comment 13 niklas.nebel 2003-11-07 17:50:09 UTC
closing.
Comment 14 ggabriel 2003-11-07 18:11:07 UTC
change your votes! :)
Comment 15 Rainer Bielefeld 2003-11-14 19:04:33 UTC
Hm, today I tried an daw, that my I checked with 1.1.0 German version
WIN98SE: 645m19(Build8693) accepted an entry '+12' or '-5'
alternatively to '=+12' or '=-5'

Funny thing, I never saw that before, but I did not try for a long
time. Does that mean we can make these issues WFM?

Rainer
Comment 16 oblomov 2003-11-14 19:24:50 UTC
+12 or -5 is *number* recognition, not *formula* recognition. Try +5-2 
as opposed to =5-2.
Comment 17 Rainer Bielefeld 2003-11-15 09:27:54 UTC
Hi Guiseppe,

O yes, how stupid of me: '+5-2' still does not work.

Rainer
Comment 18 frank 2005-03-22 08:08:12 UTC
*** Issue 45707 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 19 frank 2005-08-12 08:30:07 UTC
*** Issue 53232 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***