Issue 53465 - Arabic letters as page numbers use wrong alphabet order
Summary: Arabic letters as page numbers use wrong alphabet order
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Product: Internationalization
Classification: Code
Component: code (show other issues)
Version: 680m113
Hardware: All All
: P3 Trivial (vote)
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Reported: 2005-08-18 07:12 UTC by bulbul
Modified: 2013-07-30 02:40 UTC (History)
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Description bulbul 2005-08-18 07:12:54 UTC 1.9.x you can insert the page number field as Arabic letters
rather than as numbers. This is great, but it uses the wrong alphabet order.
When you use Arabic numbers in the same way that in English we use Roman
numerals (such as to number items in a list), you don't use the regular
alphabetic order:

   alif baa' taa' thaa' jiim...

Rather, you use the "abjad hawwaz" order:

   alif baa' jiim daal haa'...

I posted a query on about this issue, and the one response i got
concurred with me. The responder provided the entire "abgad hawwaz" mnemonic:

   abjad hawwaz HuTTi kalaman sa'faS qarashat thakhadh DaZagh

OOo is currently using the regular alphabetic order. It should be changed to use
the "abjad hawwaz" order.
Comment 1 falko.tesch 2005-08-19 13:26:17 UTC
FT->YBA: I have no idea if this would be ok or not. Please give your comment
(even that Arabic is not your main lingo) Thx a lot.
Comment 2 mkural 2005-08-19 17:01:36 UTC
Here is a graphic of the full abjad hawwaz order:

It goes top to bottom, right to left. This is the order that introductory pages
in books is most commonly numbered. Microsoft Word also gives the option to the
user to number pages based on the modern regular order of the alphabet as well
(as already doable in OpenOffice) but I haven't seen books that were numbered
according to the regular modern alphabet order, it's almost always the abjad
hawwaz order.

To check the abjad hawwaz order in Microsoft Word, do this:
1) On the Insert menu, click Page Numbers, and then click Format.
2) Click the arrow to the right of the Number format box, and choose the Abjad
Hawwaz order. Then create some pages to demonstrate the numbering of the pages.

Please keep in mind that Microsoft Word 2003 has a bug at the very end of its
Abjad Hawwaz page numbering sequence. The last letter in Word 2003 in the
sequence is Za/Dha whereas the last letter should be Ghain.

Please don't hesitate to contact me for further information.

Comment 3 Rob Weir 2013-07-30 02:40:18 UTC
Reset assignee on issues not touched by assignee in more than 1000 days.