Issue 60946 - Footnote Text on different page than its Anchor
Summary: Footnote Text on different page than its Anchor
Status: REOPENED
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: formatting (show other issues)
Version: OOo 3.3 RC4
Hardware: All All
: P3 Trivial with 4 votes (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
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Keywords: oooqa
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Reported: 2006-01-21 17:37 UTC by pesala
Modified: 2013-11-15 04:23 UTC (History)
9 users (show)

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Issue Type: DEFECT
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Attachments
Footnote 3 separated from its reference number (18.30 KB, image/png)
2006-01-21 17:39 UTC, pesala
no flags Details
sample file - footnote 2 is on a seperate page than its anchor (9.13 KB, application/vnd.sun.xml.writer)
2006-01-22 15:15 UTC, hansehouse
no flags Details
SplitFootnote.odt (23.18 KB, application/vnd.sun.xml.writer)
2013-11-14 22:34 UTC, chopf
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Description pesala 2006-01-21 17:37:08 UTC
If a footnote appears near the end of the page and there is insufficient space for 
the footnote on that page, the footnote moves to the next page, while the footnote's 
anchor remains on the same page.

The requirement is that footnotes should always appear on the same page as their 
anchor, even if this results in a large area of white space at the bottom of a page.

Where the footnote paragraph style is not set to "Do not split paragraph" at least 
one line should be kept with the footnote anchor. If Widow/Orphan protection is 
enabled, then two lines should be kept with the footnote anchor.

Special case to consider: Where two or more notes appear in the same line or in the 
same protected paragraph as the last note, all of the notes should be moved to the 
next page if the last note does not fit.
Comment 1 pesala 2006-01-21 17:39:26 UTC
Created attachment 33435 [details]
Footnote 3 separated from its reference number
Comment 2 hwoarang 2006-01-21 22:38:25 UTC
Pesala, works fine for me with OOO-dev m151 WinXP SP2.

I'm closing this one for now. Feel free to reopen it if necessary (if you can
reproduce with latest version), uploading the file.

Thank you.

Hwoarang
Comment 3 hansehouse 2006-01-22 15:12:33 UTC
Hi,

I still can reproduce the error, I will attach a sample file. Tried with OO-dev
151 Win32Intel on Win2000.

Matthias
Comment 4 hansehouse 2006-01-22 15:15:43 UTC
Created attachment 33450 [details]
sample file - footnote 2 is on a seperate page than its anchor
Comment 5 hwoarang 2006-01-23 10:21:14 UTC
Can reproduce with OOo-dev m151 Win98SE -> Reopened.

Pesala, thank you for the file.

Hwoarang
Comment 6 hwoarang 2006-01-23 10:22:05 UTC
reproducible.
Comment 7 hansehouse 2006-01-23 10:30:00 UTC
The file was from me :-)

The demonstrated error not only occurs if you have few big footnotes like in the
sample file but also if you have many little notes with about 2 lines, but this
one is harder to reproduce.

Matthias
Comment 8 michael.ruess 2006-01-23 13:03:13 UTC
MRU->FME: have a look at the attachment; there, footnote 2 is on page 1, while
the footnote text is on next page. I think, this should not be.
Comment 9 hansehouse 2006-01-24 00:27:49 UTC
This bug causes another problem: If you enable "footnote numbering per page" and
a footnote from the previous site "slipped" onto the current site (like in
fussnoteverrutscht.odt) you have two footnotes with the same number on one page...
Comment 10 frank.meies 2006-06-20 13:53:04 UTC
FME: Footnote 2 has the "do not split" attribute set. So there are two possible
ways to resolve the situation: 

1. The way OOo currently does
2. Ignore the "do not split" attribute
3. Move the "offending" footnote anchor to  the next page, which can cause a lot
of empty space on the current page.

1. is also the way Word handles this situation. So for compatibility reasons, we
should keep our current behaviour. Btw., this only applies if there are more
than one footnote on the page.

Therefore I set this one to "Invalid". You should consider filing a "request for
enhancement" or a feature issue (including a feature specification would be
fine) if you like.
Comment 11 frank.meies 2006-06-23 16:19:05 UTC
closed.
Comment 12 towsonu2003 2006-10-02 22:33:42 UTC
this is causing me troubles in ubuntu 6.06 OOo 2.0.2. This is not a feature
enhancement, this is a bug. please reopen this bug and fix this. footnotes are
supposed to stay in the same page as the anchor is. 

it's very frustrating that this has been known for a while and not fixed.
Comment 13 towsonu2003 2006-10-15 00:13:14 UTC
see (and vote for) http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=70437
Comment 14 pterion 2009-06-11 10:32:06 UTC
I can still reproduce this problem with the newest OOo Writer (3.1.0) and it
needs to be reopened.
Comment 15 bazinga14 2010-11-14 04:10:41 UTC
Happened to me while writing a paper, very annoying, needs to be fixed.
Comment 16 pesala 2010-11-14 08:45:58 UTC
No idea why this was closed as invalid. It still affects the latest version. I don't 
care any more personally as I now use Serif™ PagePlus X5, which supports 
OpenType fonts. 
Comment 17 pesala 2010-11-14 08:57:23 UTC
I think it is obvious that since the footnote is set to "do not split", and it won't all 
fit on the previous page, then it should be moved to the next page — together 
with its anchor. 

Who cares what Word does? They do not set the standards for all other 
applications. 
Comment 18 pesala 2010-11-14 09:03:58 UTC
I just checked what PagePlus X5 does — it follows the second method — it 
ignores the "keep text together" attribute and W/O protection, keeping one line 
of two on the same page as the footnote anchor, and moves the other line of 
the footnote to the next page (text frame). 

If there are three lines in the footnote, it keeps two on the same page as the 
anchor and moves one, or keeps one and moves two. 

This is a better solution IMO, as it avoids the large white space problem. 
Comment 19 dpjorgen 2012-02-02 19:23:22 UTC
reproduced this in 3.3 
Causes problems and needs to be fixed to avoid style issues. The footnote and anchor have to stay on the same page or at least keep a few lines of the footnote with the anchor to keep it together. Or move the entire footnote to the next page.
Comment 20 Douglas Lenz 2013-11-10 19:39:17 UTC
Reproduced on Apache OpenOffice configuration 4.01 Rev. 1524958, Windows 7, by generating lorem ipsum paragraphs and using a considerably sizable footnotes.
Comment 21 chopf 2013-11-14 22:33:49 UTC
I replicated the original issue with footnote being on a different page than its anchor on Win7 and AOO Version 4.0.1.
In addition, there is the possibility of a footnote being split onto two different pages. I will upload the .odt With footnote two being anchored on the first page, and starting on the first page, but the conclusion of the footnote is at the bottom of page 2.
Comment 22 chopf 2013-11-14 22:34:42 UTC
Created attachment 81922 [details]
SplitFootnote.odt
Comment 23 Michael Newman 2013-11-15 00:06:58 UTC
Replicated successfully on 4.0.1
Comment 24 sepana7 2013-11-15 04:23:50 UTC
I replicated this issue of the footnote being on a different page than its anchor with version 4.0.1 on Windows 7 64-bit.