Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla – Issue 6247
New news and communication node
Last modified: 2004-03-22 16:12:40 UTC
Louis, Martijn: I've been trying to work out a way of making the news pages updateable on a daily basis without excluding manual updating when someone gets round to it (advantage of second is that news stories chosen are chosen with clear and appropriate editorial criteria). The attached files which follow are designed not only to create automated daily updateability from existing web resources but also: * create new news review spaces for all languages to be able to localise (either on a one-off basis by a single volunteer or within a wider lang remit) * create tools which allow all languages to develop messages users can copy and paste onto their websites and so help spread the OpenOffice.org philosophy and presence (Sander's 100 million installations' objective for example) The pages included here are an initial sketch of what I would like to achieve with this idea. It is not by any means (even conceptualy) a finished product. Could we have a tryout area onsite in the future where this sort of thing could go in the future and people could start working on it in a collaborative way? Cheers, Miljenko
Created attachment 2134 [details] New news and communication node proposal for www.OpenOffice.org
Hi Miljenko, I agree with the dea of a "testing ground" that is not part of the website's project space (because some stuff is, or should not be, in the SC context of a project, with the added nav-bar and such.) and am in favour of creating an area "testing_grounds". However: 1.) This needs to remain a testing ground, and we have to insure (and for this we will need som SC magic) that not everybody has access to it. 2.) this probably shouldn't be in CVS, since this would make removing content difficult. Also, I personally don't like this use of IFrames - this rates on my annoyance scale much higher then use of the blink tag, or a green background with red text. Using iframes will make a good lot of users pretty mad (and most of these would be the developers) since they could be (and often are) using a text-browser, like lynx. Moreover, use of iframes in this manner is accessibility hell - close your eyes, and have someone read out the page to you, including logo's) from left to right, top to bottom. the context switch when you get into the iframe is going to freak you out. Thirdly, I don't think OOo is a portal to other people's sites - I do agree with re-linking to relevant news, and re-procing parts of other people's news, but providing a frame into another site is not very nice, and looks ugly to boot. Just my 2 cts. I'll accept this issue to start working on the testing-grounds thing.
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Martijn: I'm actually trying to define the utility at this moment (initial brainstorming phase which I would like to be done as a practical collaborative group effort) - automated collection of OOorg related news items and empowering language specific communities to spread their messages - rather than wanting to specify this or that technology. (I *did* include a no-frames page link right up there on text line two, you know. And I was thinking of you, honest injun.) I really can't agree however with Lynx/text-based browsers being the technology definer for intro user pages such as news/communication (pretty light stuff, really - hardly grist to the developer mill) (this does not mean that we shouldn't make an effort to ensure the pages communicate to text-based browsers what is absolutely essential, but it also doesn't mean we should fall into the trap of defining our visual style in relation to what we know the DB technology we would prefer to use can deliver. Or am I being unnecessarily inductive here?). I do however understand now why on average most Open Source projects never get above a maximum of three developers. Hey! I've just thought of a great patch for the www project. Why don't we turn it into an ihr (InHuman Resources) project? Be a one-in-a-million case study. (Truly, truly, only a joke.) (Well, not only. But mostly.) I look forward to the test-bed area being open to as many people as possible, and I hope it will be able to cope with normal 3.2/4.0 headerful WYSIWYGed HTML, without - as you wisely say - CVS access. Cheers.
I agree that the automated inclusion of OOo News is a wanted feature. Give me PHP and MySQL, and you'll have it. There are good ways of doing this, and I think it is a good idea. However, showing someone elses site within OOo is not one of them, I think. We can, and should, look at using an RDF/RSS based mechanism that will pull in headlines based on criteria, and, if we want, also the stories related to them. check out for example http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=OpenOffice this is still a beta service, but has promising potential. We should be looking at something like this, i think. ;-) cheers, Martijn
Zope will fix this
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For technical reasons we have to move the issue to another subcomponent tan 'www'. Sorry for bothering you with this generated notification message. There is no need for any action from yor side. Thanks for your understanding, Stefan