Issue 74356 - Poor usability of website when reporting bugs
Summary: Poor usability of website when reporting bugs
Status: CLOSED NOT_AN_OOO_ISSUE
Alias: None
Product: Infrastructure
Classification: Infrastructure
Component: Website general issues (show other issues)
Version: current
Hardware: All All
: P3 Trivial (vote)
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Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
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Reported: 2007-02-09 00:17 UTC by jdpipe
Modified: 2017-05-20 09:42 UTC (History)
5 users (show)

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Issue Type: DEFECT
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Description jdpipe 2007-02-09 00:17:56 UTC
This is about website usability. I find the location of your bug tracker within
the OpenOffice.org website *very obtuse*.

Can I suggest you do a quick five-person poll a la Nielson to observe how hard
people find it to locate the bug tracker? I think that you will find that people
not experienced with the Open Office website will have quite some difficulty
locating where to go.

Emphasis should be on making a simple, intuitive bug search and reporting tool,
rather than burying links and passing people through hoops. Obviously you want
to reduce duplicate reports. Having a confusing system *reduces* the chance that
people will be able determine whether or not they are reporting a duplicate.

FWIW I think that the GNOME website is the model for user-friendly bug reporting:

gnome.org --> support --> report a bug --> simple bug assistant

cf openoffice.org:

openoffice.org --> support --> ????
openoffice.org --> contributing --> quality assurance (QA) --> QA website -->
report bugs --> how to start --> ???????
openoffice.org --> contributing --> quality assurance (QA) --> QA website -->
report bugs --> issuetracker

Is it 'report bugs' or 'report issues', or is it 'quality assurance' (or is it
QA?). 

And why would I care about all that guff on the 'how to start' page?

And why do you assume on the 'support' page that I can't possibly be seeking
support for a bug that I've found?

A user should NOT have to go through a QA website to report a bug! QA is a back
office activity, not a front-desk thing! The bug reporting page should focus
100% on the person reporting the bug, not on the team that manages the bugs.

Finally, perhaps there is some philosophy or other behind the 'issue' versus
'bug' choice of terms (ie QA people know that reported bugs are often not bugs
but just silly users like me) but how about calling a spade a spade, eh? And the
user point of view is that they are experiencing a bug -- so they will be
looking to *report a bug*, not *be a person with an issue*. And the user is
always right, isn't he? :-)
Comment 1 kpalagin 2007-02-09 09:49:59 UTC
Agreed - constructing Bug Tracker query is very painful.
Comment 2 shaunmcdonald131 2007-02-09 10:07:30 UTC
Changing platform and OS to All.
Adding cc.
Comment 3 shaunmcdonald131 2007-02-09 10:17:35 UTC
On http://qa.openoffice.org/ooQAReloaded/ooQA-ReportBugs.html can "IssueTracker"
be changed to "Submit new bug/issue". This is catching me out, and I'm fairly
experienced in the ooo project.

The phrase "IssueTracker" does not mean "Submit new bug/issue", which is what
I'm looking for. My eye is sitting there scanning the page for "Submit new" and
cannot find it.
Comment 4 jdpipe 2007-04-04 01:45:24 UTC
The ooQAReloaded page is a problem, sure,  but really the problem goes all the
way back to the "Support" page. There should be clear links saying where to go
if you find a bug.

To me it feels as though some corporates heads have decided that OpenOffice
"doesn't have any bugs that our real users will find" and that therefore the bug
tracker should be obfuscated.

OpenOffice can afford to be open about the fact that it has bugs and that people
are working on them. It's a feature :-)
Comment 5 troodon 2008-01-25 15:13:16 UTC
Dupe of 55306 or the other way around :-)
Comment 6 stx123 2011-03-23 16:14:15 UTC
Reset QA Contact to new default
Comment 7 jonathandl 2014-10-28 00:00:15 UTC
I would rather direct people to the users mailing list unless they have a consistently reproducible bug; however, once you open the bug tracker, searching for duplicates can be frustrating, as the search engine often returns 100+ results, most of which are irrelevant.
Comment 8 jonathandl 2014-10-28 00:02:40 UTC
Luckily, the results that are automatically displayed in the new bug entry screen are much more relevant.
Comment 9 Kay 2014-10-28 17:40:20 UTC
Currently the Support item in AOO Help directs users to http://www.openoffice.org/support/index.html

which should direct users to the forum and mailing lists as a first preference.

Given the creation date of this issue and many changes since then, I am closing this as Resolved and we will continue to improve the Bug Tracking landing page --
http://www.openoffice.org/qa/issue_handling/pre_submission.html