Issue 76247 - Text grid enhancement for better CJK support
Summary: Text grid enhancement for better CJK support
Status: CLOSED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: formatting (show other issues)
Version: OOo 2.2 RC4
Hardware: All All
: P3 Trivial (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: pflin
QA Contact: issues@sw
URL:
Keywords: CJK
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2007-04-11 09:03 UTC by pflin
Modified: 2013-08-07 14:43 UTC (History)
17 users (show)

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Issue Type: PATCH
Latest Confirmation in: ---
Developer Difficulty: ---


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Feature specication of text grid enhancment (179.40 KB, text/plain)
2007-04-11 09:04 UTC, pflin
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patch (5.26 KB, text/plain)
2007-10-22 13:45 UTC, frank.meies
no flags Details
Update the feature specification (151.47 KB, text/plain)
2007-11-13 08:10 UTC, pflin
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snapshot with 3.0 (10.85 KB, image/png)
2008-05-26 14:22 UTC, kamataki
no flags Details
sample Word file (30.00 KB, application/msword)
2008-05-26 14:23 UTC, kamataki
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Description pflin 2007-04-11 09:03:21 UTC
Grid layout is mainly used for CJK environment. But it's behavior is somewhat
different from the real expectation of CJK users. 

The problem is, when we change the “Lines per page†setting in “Text Grid†Tab
Page, the type area of the page will also change, which is not fitting the user
habit of CJK users.

In OpenOffice, the “Characters per line†setting has the most high priority, it
will determine the height of line, then the “Lines per page†setting has the
second priority, it will determine the height of type area. 

This kind of design is used to simulate “squared paperâ€, which is a kind of
specific paper used 20 years ago(before personal computer is widely used in text
processing). But now, “squared paper†is only used in very limited case, and
most CJK users won't use it anymore.

Now the common usage is:  type area has the most high priority, it will
determine the height of line;  the “Lines per page†setting has the second
priority, and “Characters per line†setting can only determine the width of
characters, and can't influence line height in anyway.

Please see the feature specification for more details.
Comment 1 pflin 2007-04-11 09:04:44 UTC
Created attachment 44331 [details]
Feature specication of text grid enhancment
Comment 2 michael.ruess 2007-04-11 09:40:24 UTC
Reassigned to SBA.
Comment 3 jacky23 2007-04-13 03:03:33 UTC
In the specificaion, I think maybe in the grid lines only option, the user 
still should be able to change the number of characters per line, I don't think 
the user want to ignore the option to change the characters per line, disable 
the option is killing flexibility.
what do you think? 
Comment 4 pflin 2007-04-13 04:22:47 UTC
As mensioned in the ODF spec ( section 15.2.21) , when the grid type is line
only, the page is divided in a fixed number of lines.  So the user just concerns
lines per page, and it is no sense to change characters per line. If characters
per line is also enabled, the behavior will be same as "line and characters". I
think it is not accurate.
Comment 5 peter.junge 2007-04-13 06:11:02 UTC
Added myself as CC
Comment 6 Uwe Fischer 2007-04-13 10:22:16 UTC
From a western user's point of view, it would be welcome to hide the new
controls from the UI, unless "Enabled for Asian languages" is set in the
Language Options. 
Comment 7 pflin 2007-04-13 10:41:22 UTC
Good suggestion. This function will be added.
Comment 8 jacky23 2007-04-19 07:25:01 UTC
Hi all,

unfortunately Redflag CH2000 has been working on this feature too and
was preparing to submit an own specification by the beginning of May. We
studied Novell's specification and we think that our approach is richer
in features. We will speed up to prepare proposal and post this
alternative spec by the middle of May
Hopefully, both implementations do not differ too much and it will be
possible to cooperate and this feature.
Comment 9 pflin 2007-04-19 07:58:55 UTC
That is great. We can cooperate to enrich OO.org and make OO.org better support
CJK users.
Comment 10 jacky23 2007-04-20 03:46:41 UTC
Hi:
We will put the specification as soon as possible, hope can make it by the end 
of April.
thx
Comment 11 pflin 2007-04-23 09:51:35 UTC
The codes have been merged into the cws cjksp1 based on SRC680_m208. and waiting
for review and verify.
Comment 12 pflin 2007-04-23 10:44:04 UTC
pflin->fme: Please review CWS cjksp1
Comment 13 frank.meies 2007-04-23 12:19:19 UTC
fme: I'll have a look.
Comment 14 frank.meies 2007-04-24 09:09:37 UTC
fme->pflin: Looks like you forgot to commit optload.hxx.
Comment 15 pflin 2007-04-24 09:48:53 UTC
pflin->fme: optload.hxx was just committed. sorry for inconvenience
Comment 16 frank.meies 2007-04-26 11:51:31 UTC
fme->pflin: I had a first look at your cws and want to share my findings with
you. First I found that the behavior of the old tab page changed. The number of
lines settable used to be restricted based on the base line height. This has
changed. A second issue is that you should resync your cws to m210 or newer, see
Vladimir's posting on dev@openoffice.org 'IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT: HEDABU DOESN'T
EXIST ANYMORE'. A third thing to remark is that I encountered a couple of very
serious assertions coming from svtools (itempool.cxx ...) during putting of the
SwTextGridItem.  I strongly suggest to test your cws again with a non-product
build (see ./configure --help, I guess the name of the switch is something like
--enable-dbgutils). 
Comment 17 pflin 2007-04-27 02:10:51 UTC
pflin-->fme: Thanks for your comments. I will check the issues your mensioned
and resync the cws to the newer soon.
Comment 18 pflin 2007-05-16 07:25:51 UTC
pflin-->fme: The following is done per your comments. Please review it again. 
 * resync to m211
 * recover the behavior of old tab page
 * remove the assertions in non-product build and fix some bugs

Thanks!
Comment 19 frank.meies 2007-05-22 10:07:11 UTC
fme->pflin: Some more remarks: 

1) Open a new document (while having the configuration set to 'use square
mode'). Do not enable grid layout. Switch configuration setting (Tools - Options
...) to 'non-square mode'. The page margins change.

2) In SwDoc::SetDefaultPageMode I would suggest to use some code like this:

for ( USHORT i = 0; i < GetPageDescCnt(); ++i )

    {

        SwPageDesc& rDesc = _GetPageDesc( i );



        SwFrmFmt& rMaster = rDesc.GetMaster();

        SwFrmFmt& rLeft = rDesc.GetLeft();



        SwTextGridItem aGrid( (SwTextGridItem&)rMaster.GetAttr(RES_TEXTGRID) );

        aGrid.SwitchPaperMode( bSquaredPageMode );

        rMaster.SetAttr( aGrid );

        rLeft.SetAttr( aGrid );

    }

3) Currently in officecfg the default is set to 'square mode' whereas the
bSquareMode bool of the TextGridItem is initialized to 'false'. This should be
consistent.

4) Toggling the stylist (F11) results in a debug output complaining about a
missing resource
Comment 20 pflin 2007-05-31 05:02:09 UTC
pflin --> fme. Thanks for your comments.  Please review again.
(1) Fixed. 
(2) Accept the codes you suggested.
(3) Fixed: The default value of "bSquaremode" is "true" for officecfg and
SwTextGridItem. 
(4) This is not caused by Text grid. Without my codes, the complaining exists too.
Comment 21 frank.meies 2007-06-06 10:30:11 UTC
fme->pflin:

1. mmp will have a look at the ui changes.
2. you are right, the resource id issue occurs also in a 'plain' m211
3. there's one more issue I found: Switching from non-square mode to square mode
does not adjust the default settings for the grid: Open new document - default
number of lines in grid tab page is set to 20 (don't enable the grid!) - disable
square mode - default number of lines in grid tab page is set to 46 - enable
square mode again - default number of lines in grid tab page is 44.
Comment 22 pflin 2007-06-14 08:18:51 UTC
pflin --> fme
Fix the bug you found. The default number of line in grid tab page is 20 in
square mode. while in non-square mode, the number of line is dependent on the
base text size which default value is 15.6pt.
Comment 23 frank.meies 2007-06-18 09:59:29 UTC
fme->mmp: Please review pflin's UI changes.
Comment 24 matthias.mueller-prove 2007-06-20 11:20:21 UTC
I'll have a look; set target to 2.x
Comment 25 matthias.mueller-prove 2007-06-20 16:52:57 UTC
related issue: 72655
Comment 26 Mathias_Bauer 2007-08-20 08:28:26 UTC
Matthias, any news?
Comment 27 Mathias_Bauer 2007-09-28 08:24:20 UTC
Matthias, any news?
Comment 28 Mathias_Bauer 2007-10-09 11:41:18 UTC
Matthias, any news?
Comment 29 Mathias_Bauer 2007-10-19 14:15:07 UTC
As the "UX timeout" is exceeded by far I don't want to wait any longer.

Frank, please decide on open UI questions on your own (perhaps of course in
agreement with pflin).
Comment 30 frank.meies 2007-10-22 09:33:17 UTC
Ok.
Comment 31 frank.meies 2007-10-22 13:44:51 UTC
fme->pflin: I'll take over again. I'm sorry that you had to wait that long. 

From my point of view there are still some issues remaining:

1. According to the OASIS specification, the string has to be named
layout-grid-standard-mode, not layout-grid-square-mode, please check this.

2. I think we should not write style:default-page-layout in case that the grid
mode is set to standard. This way we avoid ODF 1.1 validation errors if the new
feature is not used. Please find a patch attached to this issue for this.

3. According to the specification, layout-grid-standard-mode should be ignored
if it is located inside a <style:page-layout> attribute. Therefore I think we
should not write layout-grid-standard-mode inside the <style:page-layout>
attribute as your code currently does.

4. Writer has been made warning-free since SRC680m231. Please resync to a newer
milestone and check if there are any compiler warnings.

5. I still opt for having the grid mode checkbox in the Asian settings dialog,
even if this is a Writer only setting. This is definitely the best place for any
Asian specific settings.

6. When opening the text grid page for the first time, I always get an
assertion, that standard.soc could not be loaded correctly. Looks like the
'office' namespace could not be found by GetKeyByAttrName in xmloff. Do you
observe the same?
Comment 32 frank.meies 2007-10-22 13:45:40 UTC
Created attachment 49070 [details]
patch
Comment 33 pflin 2007-10-29 03:50:37 UTC
pflin -> fme: Thank you very much for your comments.

1. I proposed to use layout-grid-square-mode instead of
layout-grid-standard-mode when the text-grid proposal was approved. It was not
accepted for my mistake (I was new to ODF TC, and was not familiar with the
process of ODF TC). In this case, I will change the string into
layout-grid-standard-mode.

2. Accept, good solution. I will merge the patch into the cws soon.

3. Accept, good suggestion.

4. I will resync it into SRC680m234. 

5. I still opt for having the grid mode checkbox in the Asian settings dialog,
even if this is a Writer only setting. This is definitely the best place for any
Asian specific settings.

5. Not accept. Since the grid mode checkbox is a Writer only setting, I think it
is better in Writer setting dialog. Moreover, this checkbox is shown only if the
"Asian language" is enabled.

6. I check a non-product build in SRC680m234 and there is no assertion that you
mentioned. 
Comment 34 frank.meies 2007-10-31 14:40:57 UTC
fme->pflin: Two more remarks:

1. I discussed this UI issue with some colleagues and we think we can keep it
the way you implemented it.
2. I think nSpaceAdd in fntcache.cxx line 1199 has to be divided by
SPACING_PRECISION_FACTOR
Comment 35 frank.meies 2007-11-01 12:25:10 UTC
fme->pflin: [...] I check a non-product build in SRC680m234 and there is no
assertion that you
mentioned.[...]

Yes, you are right. I forgot to build svx since xmloff had some incompatible
changes. 
Comment 36 frank.meies 2007-11-07 07:49:11 UTC
fme->pflin: Any news?
Comment 37 pflin 2007-11-07 08:40:56 UTC
pflin-> fme,  Meet some issues when importing the document if removing
layout-grid-standard-mode from the <style:page-layout>, fixing now ...
Comment 38 pflin 2007-11-11 03:13:21 UTC
pflin->fme, updated, please review, thanks a lot!
Comment 39 frank.meies 2007-11-12 10:28:52 UTC
fme->pflin: The wntmsci10 build breaks in various files: docdesc.cxx,
itrtxt.cxx, fntcache.cxx, ww8par6.cxx ... Please have a look.
Comment 40 pflin 2007-11-12 11:41:59 UTC
pflin->fme, I check it again, it is ok in my build. please send me the build
break log to pflin@novell.com. Thanks.
Comment 41 frank.meies 2007-11-12 13:07:49 UTC
fme->pflin: Some more remarks:

1) layout-grid-base-width and layout-grid-snap-to-characters are written even if
only an 'old' grid is used.
2) Please adjust the specification according to the correct file format strings.
Comment 42 pflin 2007-11-13 05:04:21 UTC
pflin->fme: updated. a stupid method to not write layout-grid-base-width and
layout-grid-snap-to-characters if only an 'old' grid is used. Please have a look.
Comment 43 pflin 2007-11-13 08:10:52 UTC
Created attachment 49610 [details]
Update the feature specification
Comment 44 frank.meies 2007-11-13 13:07:29 UTC
fme->pflin: Ok, layout-grid-base-width and layout-grid-snap... are not written
anymore in case the feature is not activated. But I found an other problem:

1. Open Writer, disable square mode
2. close office and restart
3. Enable grid
4. save document and close
5. reload that document
6. enable square mode and save

Result: The document contains 

<style:default-page-layout>

    <style:page-layout-properties style:writing-mode="lr-tb"/>

</style:default-page-layout>

Comment 45 frank.meies 2007-12-13 08:31:32 UTC
fme->pflin: Any progress on this?
Comment 46 pflin 2007-12-13 10:33:17 UTC
pflin->fme, update the file xmloff/source/style/XMLPageExport.cxx for fixing
this issue. please have a look. Thanks!
Comment 47 frank.meies 2007-12-13 11:52:26 UTC
fme->pflin: Looks good. Please check file pagefrm.hxx line 507/508, there seems
to be a wrong line end character, which causes the windows build to break. Also
ww8par6.cxx does not compile due to line 476.
Comment 48 pflin 2007-12-13 14:55:21 UTC
pflin -> fme, Fix the build break on Win32. Please have a look. Thanks

BTW, Is the target milestone 2.4? I hope it would get into 2.4. Thanks.
Comment 49 frank.meies 2007-12-13 15:12:44 UTC
fme->pflin:

[...] Fix the build break on Win32. Please have a look. [...]

Done. Works fine.

[...] BTW, Is the target milestone 2.4? I hope it would get into 2.4. Thanks. [...]

no, the target milestone is 3.0 since the deadline for OOo 2.4 has been missed:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoRelease24
Comment 50 pflin 2007-12-14 02:00:57 UTC
My mistake not notice the deadline for OOo 2.4. Regret for missing this milestone.
Comment 51 stefan.baltzer 2007-12-20 17:47:25 UTC
SBA: Unfortunately, the Feature/UI freeze deadline was not met. Since this
feature introduces a new check box (in Tools-Options-Writer-General), its string
would miss the translation cycle of OOo 2.4 wich is already under way. Therefore
we must retarget the issue and the CWS to OOo 3.0. In my opinion, it does not
need to be resynced because the source tree split will come soon.
-> Change target milestone. Added Zhu Lihua on CC list.
 
Comment 52 redflagzhulihua 2008-02-28 03:21:33 UTC
Hi,

Could anyone please tell me where I can get a build of this CWS, so that I can
verify it?
Comment 53 Mathias_Bauer 2008-02-28 18:04:09 UTC
Perhaps

http://download.go-oo.org/fong/OOo_2.4.0_080222_LinuxIntel_install.tar.gz

is a good place to get an install set. According to Pei Feng Lin it is built for
Suse Linux 10 sp1, don't know what that means for other penguin species.
Comment 54 mmeeks 2008-02-29 10:38:26 UTC
Fong, can you try building with the build-bot (cf.
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Buildbot) - you have to guess which of
the Linux machines is setup to build a 'standard' build (ie. one that Hamburg QA
can run) - they are usually not called things like "debian, ARM, experimental"
or whatever ;-)
There should be an up-load install-set button somewhere too that can do this
automatically for you.
Comment 55 pflin 2008-03-03 02:04:06 UTC
-->Michael, thanks, I will have a try soon.
Comment 56 pflin 2008-03-04 05:53:27 UTC
pflin -> lihua, 
you can get the linux install set from
http://buildbot.go-oo.org/install_sets/O3-build-1982-cjksp1-install_set.zip.
Comment 57 redflagzhulihua 2008-03-04 07:26:06 UTC
Hi, Fong,

Downloading, thanks...

Comment 58 tora3 2008-03-04 14:37:27 UTC
tora->pflin: I would like to propose merging the efforts done by your side and 
the ones by a Japanese project. 

Here is an experimental implementation and its documentations: 
  http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Jsdp2007
   http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Grid_%28lines_and_spacing%29
    http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Grid_display_line
    http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Wrong_position_of_ruby_text
    http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Relations_among_lines_and_characters

Linux English installation set is available at Jsdp2007 listed above.

caio, tora
Comment 59 redflagzhulihua 2008-03-06 13:33:41 UTC
Hi, Fong,

The function we need is working. 

But I'm sorry to say there is one thing I didn't expect. The style of the grid
are changed. The original style is used more commonly than this style. So I
think can we use the original style? 

That is to say, we don't change the grid. only implement the following feature:

The type area has the highest priority, it always full filled with grids,
together with the "lines per page", so the LineHeight is determined. if we
adjust "Characters per line", this will change the width of the character, at
the same time, the height of the character will change, but the line height
won't change. so the gap line between the lines will change.

This is the common expectation of Chinese people which implemented by another
commonly used office product, Kingsoft WPS office.

Do it this way, then we needn't disable the "Character per line" any more, if we
choose "Grid(only lines)".

Personally, I always feel the grid in MS Word is no use and ugly. So I don't
want OpenOffice degenerate. WPS office do well at this point. 
Comment 60 tora3 2008-03-06 16:01:42 UTC
tora->redflagzhulihua: Sorry for interruption.

Japanese attempt of enhancing grid layout does exactly what you want, i think.

 If you adjust "Character per line (1)," 
  "Max. base text size (2)" will be automatically modified and 
  "Max. Ruby text size (3)" will be simultaneously adjusted.
 However, the sum of (1) and (2) will be kept. (The sum equals line height.)
 Therefore, "Lines per page (4)" will not be changed. 

But if you try to set (1) to too small or too big value, such as 1 or 200, 
(2), (3), and (4) will be modified to keep good balance.

That is the specification that Japanese one implements. The implementation 
works with all grid types: Grid (lines only), Grid (lines and characters), 
and Grid (lines and character spacing).
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Relations_among_lines_and_characters

Is that the one you expect?
Comment 61 tora3 2008-03-06 16:10:10 UTC
Oops, there are two typos in the prior post. Here is correction:

 If you adjust "Character per line (1)," 
  "Max. base text size (2)" will be automatically modified and 
  "Max. Ruby text size (3)" will be simultaneously adjusted.
 However, the sum of (2) and (3) will be kept. (The sum equals line height.)
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^
 Therefore, "Lines per page (4)" will not be changed. 
Comment 62 stefan.baltzer 2008-03-06 19:39:25 UTC
Verified in CWS cjksp1. 
Comment 63 redflagzhulihua 2008-03-07 03:15:04 UTC
Hi, tora,

Yes, sounds same as what I think. 

Perhaps a little difference about this sentence:

But if you try to set (1) to too small or too big value, such as 1 or 200, 
(2), (3), and (4) will be modified to keep good balance.

I think adjust (1) shouldn't modify (4), (1) should restrict to a proper range
according to (4), so (1) will not be too big or too small. What pflin has done
is restricting the min. value of (1).

I had thought this effort would keep the original grid lines.
Comment 64 pflin 2008-03-07 03:21:21 UTC
pflin -> lihua,

As mentioned in function spec:

1. The original behavior is not changed when the original grid type ( "use
squared page mode for text grid" in "tools -> options -> Openoffice.org Writer
-> General"  tab page) is selected. If there are something need to do for the
original behavior, it is better to create new issues for them.

2. If "standard page mode" is used, ( "use squared page mode for text grid"  is
unchecked), the behavior of "line per page" or "character per line" is similar
to MS Word. For this kind of behavior is widely for CJK users( not only Chinese,
but also Japanese and Korean ) 
   This new behavior has been discussed in ODF TC and approved in ODF 1.2. 
Comment 65 pflin 2008-03-07 03:31:25 UTC
pflin -> lihua,
  Thank you very much for your test.

pflin -> tora, lihua

I think both of you are talking about the original grid type which is keep when
"use squared page mode for text grid" is checked.

For the new grid type which is similar to MS Word 2003, Ruby text is not used.
Comment 66 redflagzhulihua 2008-03-07 03:39:30 UTC
Hi, Fong,

I have no objection to verify this issue, it accord to the specification. I just
didn't know the grid line will change to the MS word style. So it abit
unexpected to me.
Comment 67 tora3 2008-03-07 06:56:54 UTC
tora->lihua: You have a point. I can partially agree with you. 

It might be somewhat controversial. 
 The point could be 
   - How to get rid of situation where typical users get confused or frustrated. 

How to answer to user's inquiry: 
 "I just wanted to increase characters per line. Why did the Writer reject my 
 order to increasing the value. Please clearly explain the reason in short."

 "I just wanted to increase characters per line. Why did not the Writer prevent 
 from changing lines per page. Please clearly explain the reason in short."

There could be a good point to make a balance. Machines including software 
should obey commands ordered by human. Meanwhile, machines are expected to 
reject commands if there is possibility to harm humans. 

tora->pflin: 
By the way, specs around "Character per line" and "Lines per page" could be 
discussed separately from this issue. This issue could sorely focus on type 
of grid. Another issue regarding the number of characters and lines could be 
filed or an old issue 53425 could be reused. There might be no need to connect 
the number of characters and lines to type of grid. 
Comment 68 tora3 2008-03-07 07:05:17 UTC
Hi Fong,

IMHO, introducing the following new items might make users confused. 
 - "use squared page mode for text grid"
 - "style:snap-to-layout-grid"

According to the specs "Text Grid Enhancement for better CJK support 
V2.4.odt," the squared page mode will be applied for whole text document. 
That breaks Writer's normal behavior, i think.

Writer is capable of managing different page styles. User can put 
various page styles in a single text document. E.g. The first page 
would be the cover page without any grid; the second page might be in 
Writer's original grid type Grid (lines only); and middle pages of the 
document could be Word-like new grid layout. Therefore, an attribute 
for the whole document does not meet Writer's page style control mechanism. 

In addition, according to the specs, "style:snap-to-layout-grid" will 
be set to false of true depending on what type of file is loaded. 
When Writer loads a Word file, the value will be set to true. Otherwise, 
it will be set to false. 

Is there any way for a user to confirm or change the value? Maybe no. 
That means Writer will not be capable of preparing a document in Word-like 
grid layout from scratch. That is not expected. 

Finally, it is even difficult for me to understand the specs.
 To determine what type of grid layout engine, Writer would see 
  - whether activated or not of "use squared page mode for text grid"
  - true of not of "style:snap-to-layout-grid"
  - whether Grid (lines and characters) is chosen or not
That is too complicated for me and that might be difficult for users 
to understand or utilize. 


Why don't we simply add the same grid layout algorithm of Word 
without introducing any new items as Japanese project has achieved? 

Word's "Specify line and character grid" is capable of managing 
how many characters will be laid in a single line by controlling 
a distance between each character. That type obviously turns snap-to-grid 
disabled as the specs addresses to. In addition to controlling 
snap-to-grid, the grid type manages distance between characters. 
That is easy to be incorporated to Writer using Writer's kerning function. 
Comment 69 tora3 2008-03-07 07:10:42 UTC
I am sorry. there were typos again. 

Correction:

  In addition, according to the specs, "style:snap-to-layout-grid" will 
  be set to false of true depending on what type of file is loaded. 
  When Writer loads a Word file, the value will be set to false. Otherwise,
                                                          ^^^^^ 
  it will be set to true. 
                    ^^^^
Comment 70 kamataki 2008-05-26 14:20:48 UTC
I thank all of you about this problem.

I used 3.0 beta. There is the point that I want to ask for improvement. When a
special character and an alphabet continue, I have big interval. Please watch a
snapshot when I read a file of Word with 3.0.

I wish this Issue is opened again.
Comment 71 kamataki 2008-05-26 14:22:04 UTC
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snapshot with 3.0
Comment 72 kamataki 2008-05-26 14:23:12 UTC
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sample Word file
Comment 73 pflin 2008-05-27 04:08:57 UTC
pflin->kamataki, thank you for your found. 

I find that the space between CJK character and western character sometimes
doesn't accurate as MS Word expect. 

This is an issue existing in OOo 2.x which doesn't include the text grid patches. 

Please file another issue and may assign it to me. I will have a look.
Comment 74 kamataki 2008-05-27 21:22:20 UTC
kamataki->pflin: thank you.

According to your advice, I registered Issue.

http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=90040
Comment 75 thorsten.ziehm 2009-07-20 14:55:22 UTC
This issue is closed automatically and wasn't rechecked in a current version of
OOo. The fixed issue should be integrated in OOo since more than half a year. If
you think this issue isn't fixed in a current version (OOo 3.1), please reopen
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