Issue 7984 - Cannot mix page orientations
Summary: Cannot mix page orientations
Status: CLOSED IRREPRODUCIBLE
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: ui (show other issues)
Version: OOo 1.1 Beta
Hardware: All All
: P5 (lowest) Trivial with 1 vote (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: bettina.haberer
QA Contact: issues@sw
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Keywords: oooqa
: 17975 (view as issue list)
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Blocks:
 
Reported: 2002-09-30 21:35 UTC by bobharvey
Modified: 2008-05-17 23:51 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Issue Type: ENHANCEMENT
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Description bobharvey 2002-09-30 21:35:02 UTC
It is _very_ normal to mid landscape and portrait pages in one document.

I can find no way to do it in OOO 1.0.1, W32 or Linux implimentations.

There are 'page styles' - a thundering good idea - and the format, page 
menu.  But no matter what I do, how I select a page, even put it in 
different "sections" I cannot mix orientations.

If I select landscape in "page format" it changes the whole document.  If I 
create a page style with landscape selected, and apply it on one page, it 
changes the whole document.

in the help for 'creating landscape' it says:
.....
6.Make the necessary changes to this style as compared with the current 
style. In this example you should go to the Page tab, under Paper format 
select Landscape orientation, and click OK.
Now you have a new Page Style in landscape format, which you can apply to 
selected pages.

I can't make it work.  I'e followed the help file to the letter - manual 
break- page break - style landscape - and when I apply it the whole 
document changes, not just the following pages.

I've made this a '2' because this makes it a "bad word processor" - there 
are classes of document it can't do, and it doesn't match the "help"
Comment 1 Oliver Specht 2002-10-07 10:43:27 UTC
Hi,
to have different orientations you need to use different page styles
in your document. As you already read the right way to do it is to
insert manual page breaks that change the page style used for the
following pages. (The same setting can be found in
format/paragraph/text flow.)

- create a new text document
- insert some text and then insert a manual page break that uses the
page style "First page" 
- change the orientation of the page style "First page" to landscape
Comment 2 bobharvey 2002-10-08 10:01:45 UTC
Fair enough.  I cannot see why it did not work for me when I raised the issue.  

I think 
there is a usability issue here.  Do I take it that the page style is an integral part of 
the break and cannot be applied afterwards?  Other styles (character, cell, 
numbering, paragraph) can be applied by selecting an existing object and applying a 
style.  I think I was trying to follow the same thing.  

Perhaps attempts to apply a 
page style other than when a manual break is inserted should produce either a warning 
dialogue or the opportunity to insert both the page style and the break?

Comment 3 jack.warchold 2003-08-07 09:55:29 UTC
ja: changed version to OOo1.1
changed platform to all
changed owner to bh
set status to confirmed -> new
i think this is just an enhancement for the office
enhancement wishlist: set pageformating for single pages to the dialog 
 Format -> Page or popup a choice if applying a page style to allow 
inserting of a pagebreak with the given style automaticaly for the 
current page
Comment 4 bobharvey 2004-02-09 15:36:50 UTC
Just downloaded version 1.1, and I still can't make it do what I want.

Oh, adding a new page in 
either landscape or portrait works fine, and all subsequent pages are in that form.  But I can't 
manage to change the orientation - or the page style and hence orientation - of an existing page in the 
middle of a document.  Maybe I'm not managing to select the right thing, but I can't fangle it.
Comment 5 lohmaier 2004-02-11 19:57:35 UTC
Put the cursor in the first paragraph that should be on the new orientation and
choose Format|Pragraph On the tab "Textflow" choose 
[x] break (o) before [x] with page-style "your page-style"

Do the same thing for the paragraph that you want to have in your regular layout
(choose your default style).

The steps above is the same as choosing 
Insert|Manual break (o) page break [x] with style "your style"
(this function will set the same options)

If you know that you will not have two pages with the new style directly after
each other (e.g. there's always at least one standard page inbetween two
landscape ones) you can also set the "next style" field in your landscape
page-style to your default page - you then don't have to set the format back to
default.

If you can tell that sections beginning with text that is formatted with the
paragraph-style "xy" you can set the above mentioned options in the paragraph
style "xy" so you don't have to insert a hard-formatted break.
Comment 6 bobharvey 2004-04-13 15:22:46 UTC
I've been following your advice:
>cursor...first paragraph.....Format|Pragraph
and it 
works.

But I still think that in the longer run there is a usability issue - the idea of selecting 
page orientation by going format-paragraph is not obvious, and I have had to keep your note on my 
desktop to remind me how to do it.  Also having to make the change in two places in order to affect just 
one page is sub-optimal, and not very swish.  The word "clumsy" springs to mind.
Comment 7 bobharvey 2004-04-30 16:06:41 UTC
There does seem to be a problem with the ergonomics of page 
orientation:
http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4410
http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8413
http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7757

polus 
various other one-message threads
Comment 9 bobharvey 2005-10-13 11:38:37 UTC
It has to be said that this is no easier to understand in version 2
Comment 10 cno 2006-05-01 08:09:29 UTC
Hi,

Page orientation is a matter of page-styles as well. 
So you can choose Insert|Manual break and in that window choose the page style
(you've just created) with landscape.
Works VERF (very easy, reliable and fast).
Comment 11 stp 2006-05-31 21:42:00 UTC
*** Issue 17975 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 12 pagalmes.lists 2006-08-01 17:01:16 UTC
As far as I think, I can see 3 levels where a page style could be applied :

- the page : apply the page style on ONE page
- the selection : all the pages in the selection are modified
- all the document

BTW, when going to format > page..., if you do modifications, it should be
possible to select to which level you can apply the modification (page,
selection, all document). Then when the user validates, automatic page styles
should be created using the modified settings to keep a "clean" document.
Comment 13 cno 2007-04-27 09:39:41 UTC
Closing as works for me.
I see various suggestions for other behaviour in this issue.
Pls feel free to discuss those on the lists, and/or create a new clear issue for
each.
Comment 14 ace_dent 2008-05-17 21:46:45 UTC
The Issue you raised has been marked as 'Resolved' and not updated within the
last 1 year+. I am therefore setting this issue to 'Verified' as the first step
towards Closing it. If you feel this is incorrect, please re-open the issue and
add any comments.

Many thanks,
Andrew
 
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Comment 15 ace_dent 2008-05-17 23:51:06 UTC
As per previous posting: Verified -> Closed.
A Closed Issue is a Happy Issue (TM).

Regards,
Andrew