Issue 89817 - Allow empty paragraph in list when Backspace was used
Summary: Allow empty paragraph in list when Backspace was used
Status: CONFIRMED
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: formatting (show other issues)
Version: OOo 3.0 Beta
Hardware: All All
: P3 Trivial (vote)
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Reported: 2008-05-23 00:08 UTC by typist
Modified: 2017-05-20 11:22 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Issue Type: DEFECT
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Description typist 2008-05-23 00:08:52 UTC
'Auto-bulleting' works unpractically: you cannot easily leave a line out when 	
creating some list; on pressing 'return' twice (to create empty line
in-between), auto-bulleting shuts off, you can't simply continue with further
bullets. Instead, you'll have to type one letter, do 'return', write the other
text and manually delete the letter and bullet afterwards.

Additionally, when putting a first line with '-' in front by myself indicating a
'bulleted' list for the wizard, enter text and hit 'return', auto-bulleting is
but being initiated correctly for the next few lines, but not the first one; the
first '-' stays fat and bold, like it was set there by me.

Remedy: alter auto-bulleting so as to it continues till 'return' occurs a second
time; then, when text is entered in the third line, the empty line in-between
gets cleared of the bullet, if another 'return' is received, all empty prior
bullets are being deleted and auto-bulleting shuts off. Also, please make sure
the wizard is exchanging the very first of the '-' placed by the user with a
slim 'wizard-style'-one; this doesn't work, if there's a tab set in-between the
'-' and the text.

typist
Comment 1 michael.ruess 2008-05-23 10:52:50 UTC
That is not fully true. When a bulleted line is created, just press Backspace
key - this will remove the bullet from the line so that a non-bulleted paragraph
can be entered.
Two times enter for leaving bulleted mode is common behavior in WOrd processing.
Comment 2 michael.ruess 2008-05-23 10:53:45 UTC
Closed.
Comment 3 typist 2008-05-23 11:53:13 UTC
"'Auto-bulleting' works unpractically: you cannot easily leave a line out when 	
creating some list."
->
"That is not fully true. When a bulleted line is created, just press Backspace
key - this will remove the bullet from the line so that a non-bulleted paragraph
can be entered. Two times enter for leaving bulleted mode is common behavior in
WOrd processing." 

What I mean is, that, when trying to create an empty line between two bulleted
paragraphs, it's not possible to do that in a practical manner: if I press Enter
after a bulleted paragraph, a new bullet is set (always in the very next line,
not leaving an empty line by default -> not problem really a problem, can be
removed with backspace). 
If I press backspace on that bullet, it's being deleted, but I can't simply
proceed to the next line and having the bullets automatically continued there,
that's the real problem. I then have to manually set a new bullet and engage the
wizard newly. 

Since you'll usually want to have some space between two bulleted paragraphs (I
do), that's not very practical. Common behaviour should be, that the wizard
automatically starts over again, when a blank line between two bulleted
paragraphs has been created.


The following behaviour is still true, but the occurence is not consistent
(perhaps it's just a matter of standard settings, but if so, I don't know about it):

"Additionally, when putting a first line with '-' in front by myself, indicating
a 'bulleted' list for the wizard, enter some text and hit 'return',
auto-bulleting is but being initiated correctly for the next few lines, but not
the first one; the first '-' stays fat and bold, like it was set there by me."

Regards,

typist
Comment 4 michael.ruess 2008-05-23 15:46:38 UTC
Yeah, now I understand. I will reopen and assign issue to improve the behavior.
Comment 5 michael.ruess 2008-05-23 15:51:39 UTC
MRU->OD/FL: I have an Idea for this - there should be an exception when the
number/bullet label has been deleted by using backspace key. In this case an
empty paragraph should be allowed when Enter is used directly after this and the
list should be continued normally then.
Comment 6 michael.ruess 2008-05-23 15:56:45 UTC
BTW: the big competitor handles this case much more illogical. IME we could take
a small  advantage there ;-)
Comment 7 typist 2008-05-23 20:14:41 UTC
thank you for addressing this enhancement! :)
Comment 8 Marcus 2017-05-20 11:22:04 UTC
Reset assigne to the default "issues@openoffice.apache.org".