Issue 35959 - Incomplete context in help about Shift+Ctrl+S
Summary: Incomplete context in help about Shift+Ctrl+S
Status: CLOSED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: editing (show other issues)
Version: OOo 1.1.3
Hardware: All All
: P4 Trivial (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Uwe Fischer
QA Contact: issues@sw
URL:
Keywords:
: 38061 39178 60058 (view as issue list)
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2004-10-21 15:30 UTC by gudmund
Modified: 2013-08-07 14:41 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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Issue Type: ENHANCEMENT
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Developer Difficulty: ---


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Description gudmund 2004-10-21 15:30:20 UTC
The keyboard shortut Shift+Ctrl+S as mentioned in the help files for inserting
special characters or symbols doesn't work. Swedish version of OOo 1.1.3.

The workaround for now is to activate it manually through Tools > Adapt... >
Keyboard, then selecting Category (Insert), Function (Insert Special Character),
then Keystroke Combination (press Shift+Ctrl+S) and click [Change].
Comment 1 michael.ruess 2004-10-26 10:35:26 UTC
Reassigned to ES.
Comment 2 eric.savary 2004-10-26 12:05:47 UTC
ES->FL: I don't know what to do with that.. Ok, if the Help says (amny times)
the shortcut exists I don't think the Docu invented this.
So it should be a bug
On the other hand, the shortcut is free in every modules.
So we may specify it apwide.
And it would be a real Blooper for you ;)
Comment 3 eric.savary 2004-10-26 12:06:25 UTC
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Comment 4 eric.savary 2004-10-26 12:06:49 UTC
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Comment 5 frank.loehmann 2004-11-26 10:18:20 UTC
FL->UFI: The help section for "Special Character" in the SO 7 online help
describes the Shift+Ctrl+S shortcut. We did not use this shortcut in SO 7 and SO
8. So please remove this hint in the online help. We will think about new
keyboard shortcuts for SO 9 again.

Text taken from help: "Inserts special characters from the installed fonts. You
can also access this command by pressing Shift+Ctrl+S."
Comment 6 Uwe Fischer 2004-11-26 10:42:52 UTC
This is a feature that got broken from SO7 to SO8. Do not cite the help out of
context. It is about text edit boxes only. For example, the text boxes in the
Find&Replace dialog. Press Shift+Ctrl+S there to insert a special character. It
is a bug if SO8 does not allow this. Don't think this bug can be fixed by
changing the help text.
Comment 7 Uwe Fischer 2004-11-26 10:49:23 UTC
OK, yes, now I see in file text\shared\01\04100000.xhp the text promises too
much. Shift+Ctrl+S did never work in a normal document, only in text boxes. Will
change that help text. 
But still the shortcut should work in SO8 text boxes, shouldn't it?
Comment 8 eric.savary 2004-11-26 13:32:29 UTC
Yes it's broken. There is already a task for this: issue 33483.
But the help is incomplete (missing to explain the context) when it says for the
Special Character dialog "Inserts special characters from the installed fonts.
You can also access this command by pressing Shift+ Ctrl +S.". You can only
access this, as you said, in text input fields.

The help speaks about the context on the page "Inserting Special Characters" but
not on the page "Special Characters".

Please add the context also on this page, thanx!
Comment 9 Uwe Fischer 2004-12-07 10:31:13 UTC
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Comment 10 Uwe Fischer 2004-12-07 11:37:54 UTC
*** Issue 38061 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 11 Uwe Fischer 2004-12-13 09:35:26 UTC
changed text\shared\01\04100000.xhp
Comment 12 lohmaier 2004-12-17 17:25:39 UTC
*** Issue 39178 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 13 frank.thomas.peters 2005-01-25 13:16:59 UTC
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Comment 14 frank.thomas.peters 2005-01-25 13:20:30 UTC
FPE: Pls verify in hc680postbeta
Hint for QA: Search for "special character" in the help
Comment 15 frank.thomas.peters 2005-01-25 16:51:16 UTC
fixed
Comment 16 frank.thomas.peters 2005-01-26 08:13:52 UTC
FPE: Due to time constraints removed from CWS
Comment 17 frank.thomas.peters 2005-01-26 08:14:03 UTC
FPE: Due to time constraints removed from CWS
Comment 18 eric.savary 2005-01-31 13:29:44 UTC
Reopen
Comment 19 eric.savary 2005-01-31 13:31:31 UTC
Please reassign back when fixed
Comment 20 Uwe Fischer 2005-01-31 13:43:03 UTC
the help is fixed, pls verify in master m75: search for the index entry "special
characters"
Comment 21 frank.thomas.peters 2005-02-01 11:13:58 UTC
verified in m75 master
Comment 22 frank.thomas.peters 2005-02-01 11:18:30 UTC
closing
Comment 23 gudmund 2005-02-11 16:01:14 UTC
As far as I've understood, this isse has now been "fixed" by changing the help
text to reflect what's already there.

To have "please make it work the way it was originally described" made into a
request for enhancement (as I thought the issue type implicated), what do I have
to do? Just reopen it, or post a whole new thing about it?
Comment 24 Uwe Fischer 2005-02-14 08:23:41 UTC
You learned about the shortcut Shift+Ctrl+S to invoke the Special Character
dialog from the online help. However, the online help failed to tell you that
this keyboard shortcut only was intended to work in text boxes. It was never
designed to work inside a document.
We changed the online help, so this bug is fixed and closed now.
If you want the same keyboard shortcut to work not only in text boxes, but
inside any document, it would be a good idea to post this as a new enhancement
request. The new request would make it clear that nothing got fixed, no other
bugs depend on it, would start new, so please submit a new request with a new title.
Comment 25 lohmaier 2006-01-30 00:37:58 UTC
*** Issue 60058 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***