Issue 63771 - [EN] OOo - Hotkey for "Send" and "Export to PDF" is the same.
Summary: [EN] OOo - Hotkey for "Send" and "Export to PDF" is the same.
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Product: General
Classification: Code
Component: ui (show other issues)
Version: OOo 2.0.2
Hardware: All Windows XP
: P4 Trivial (vote)
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Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
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Keywords: oooqa
: 112569 (view as issue list)
Depends on: 100745
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Reported: 2006-03-29 15:05 UTC by kpalagin
Modified: 2013-02-07 22:36 UTC (History)
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Description kpalagin 2006-03-29 15:05:37 UTC
In File menu both "Send" and "Export to PDF" have the same hotkey, namely "d".
This is not exactly convinient.
I would suggest changing hotkey for "Send" to "e" (as in e-mail).
Comment 1 lars 2006-03-29 21:53:24 UTC
confirmed with 680_m160 on WinXP Pro SP2 and according to http://qa.openoffice.
org/issue_handling/workflowcharts/RFE_issues_by_QA.sxd I reassign this issue to 
requirements and set the status to New
Comment 2 Rainer Bielefeld 2010-06-22 15:49:47 UTC
Shorcut keys are different for the diferent localizations / UI languages, so I
doubt that a general solution can be found. 

Do you  know what other English language applications use for "Send"? Our
solution should respect "standards"
Comment 3 Rainer Bielefeld 2010-06-22 15:59:17 UTC
*** Issue 112569 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 4 alfa333 2011-04-22 16:09:58 UTC
(In reply to comment #2)
> @kpalagin:
> Do you  know what other English language applications use for "Send"? Our
> solution should respect "standards"

I think there are no global standards, as yet. Compare MS Outlook Express: Ctrl-F makes "Forward", while in MS editors it invokes "Find" (and Find is also needed in MS Outlook Express - you need Crlt-Shif-F to invoke it). So if within one company they do not find if worth keeping a hotkey uniform, the less problem is to make OOo so uniformized with other companies applications.

Even OOoWriter is inconsistent with OOoCalc (at least Polish UI): in Writer, Alt-FA invokes Format>Paragraph (Paragraph=Akapit), while in Calc Alt-FA invokes Format>Worksheet (Worksheet=Arkusz).

Besides, I think respecting standards is not worth making collisions. Hotkeys are used primariliy by the users who work much with a particular application. If a user comes to an application rarely, he/she will use mouse to select menu options. Or will use hotkeys, but very carefully, with reading the intended option. Such a user also will prefer assigning one letter to one option only, rather than to several. Respecting standards can be limited to using common WORDS for common actions, not common hotkeys.

Colliding hotkeys are VERY UNCONVENIENT and they deny the concept of hotkeys, which are created to make fast access to needed features. We need to press a key several times, watching the menu to notice how many pressings will be enough (I cannot learn it by heart, because sometimes certain options are inactive so less number of pressing my hotkey is proper), and then Enter!.

A higher level of collision is in Polish UI in Writer with Alt-PW: the option "Wlasciwosci" (Properties) is assigned W, but there is an earlier option with W: "Wyslij" (send) - when I press Alt-PW (once, or twice, as there is yet earlier option "Zapisz wszystko" = save all, with W assigned as well), I reach "Wyslij" which expands to its submenu! Next pressing W does not go to Wlasciwosci; Esc does not help.
Comment 5 alfa333 2011-04-23 08:56:49 UTC
(In reply to comment #4)
Also in MS Wordpad (Polish UI) the feature "Save as" is invoked with Alt-PZ, while in all other applications (from MS and others) this is invoked with Alt-PA (and Alt-PA has no meaning in Wordpad!). So the standardization is not considered important (at least by MS Poland).