Issue 65953 - Mailing lists were down and earlier mails sent are missing
Summary: Mailing lists were down and earlier mails sent are missing
Status: CLOSED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Infrastructure
Classification: Infrastructure
Component: Mailing lists (show other issues)
Version: current
Hardware: All All
: P1 (highest) Trivial (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Unknown
QA Contact: issues@www
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Keywords:
: 65954 (view as issue list)
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Blocks:
 
Reported: 2006-05-31 13:14 UTC by merschmann
Modified: 2006-10-10 08:29 UTC (History)
9 users (show)

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Issue Type: DEFECT
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Description merschmann 2006-05-31 13:14:06 UTC
Hi,

mailing lists seem to be down since 2006-05-30 22:00 UTC (2006-05-31 00:00
german time).
I haven't received any mails from mailing lists since that time. There also was
no reaction on trying a subscription. 
I checked german mailinglists and general mailinglists, too.

Volker
Comment 1 Unknown 2006-05-31 13:16:53 UTC
Looking into the issue.

Regards,
Karthik
Support Operationsh
Comment 2 merschmann 2006-05-31 13:20:00 UTC
CC-ing cloph as he filed an issue at exactly the time for this ;-)
Comment 3 Mechtilde 2006-05-31 13:29:44 UTC
I can confirm it
Comment 4 Unknown 2006-05-31 13:37:31 UTC
We are working on the issue,will get back to you at the earliest.


Regards,
Karthik
Support Operations
Comment 5 andreschnabel 2006-05-31 14:01:32 UTC
*** Issue 65954 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 6 Unknown 2006-05-31 14:23:01 UTC
Hi 
      I just tried subscribing to a couple of mailing list like
dev-help@collabtest.openoffice.org  and got the subscription mail imm,could you
also let us know the names of the mailing lists where the problem has been
encountered.

Regards,
Karthik
Support Operations
Comment 7 merschmann 2006-05-31 14:35:44 UTC
@support: Please try also to confirm your subscription.

There are no mails at e.g. dev@de.openoffice.org, users@de.openoffice.org,
dev@openoffice.org, users@openoffice.org
Have a look at the archives through
http://de.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectMailingListList or
http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html

Comment 8 Unknown 2006-05-31 14:39:01 UTC
Thanks for the info,could you confirm if you are able to recieve mails from lists.

Karthik
Support Operations
Comment 9 merschmann 2006-05-31 14:44:31 UTC
I have just sent a mail to dev@de.openoffice.org, CC karthiksp@openoffice.org
with the subject "Mailinglisten down"
Have a look at the archives.

Volker
Comment 10 Unknown 2006-05-31 14:51:14 UTC
Thanks Volker,spoke to Stefan regarding the issue,will update you asap.

Karthik
Support Operations
Comment 11 stx123 2006-05-31 15:10:55 UTC
Outbound CVS/IZ notifications work.
But inbound messages are not relayed to <user>@openoffice.org neither are
messages sent to mailing list subscribers. 
Comment 12 merschmann 2006-05-31 16:36:37 UTC
Got first new mailinglist-mail today from releases@openoffice.org. It has been
sent 10 minutes ago.
Will we see the mails which were sent to the lists since 22:00 UTC ?

Volker
Comment 13 lohmaier 2006-05-31 16:46:50 UTC
It seems that mails sent now make it to the lists again, but the mails sent
earlier did not arrive yet.
Comment 14 Unknown 2006-05-31 20:55:38 UTC
We are trying to find out why.
Comment 15 Unknown 2006-06-01 00:24:46 UTC
The initial internal update tells me that a misconfiguration of the virus/spam 
filter caused this e-mail outage. While all mails internal to CEE and outgoing 
were operational, incoming e-mails were filtered out. At this point we are 
investigating why this happened and how we can make sure that this does not re-
occur in the future. Just for clarification, there is _no_ equipment (or 
hardware) failure associated with this outage.
Comment 16 eberlein 2006-06-01 08:11:59 UTC
Sent mail:
Message-ID: <447D88CE.5080101@ofd.verwalt-berlin.de>
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 14:15:10 +0200
From: Peter Eberlein <peter.eberlein@ofd.verwalt-berlin.de>
Organization: Senatsverwaltung =?ISO-8859-15?Q?f=FCr_Finanzen?=
User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To:  dev@sw.openoffice.org
Subject: Forms handling in OpenOffice Writer 2.x / 3.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This mail has not arrived until now.

Peter
Comment 17 bernhard 2006-06-01 19:41:05 UTC
@Karthik:

Could you give us a clear advise:

Will the mails that have been sorted out be recovered and sent to the mailing
lists later on?

Or do we have to tell everybody on the lists to repost the mails not delivered?

If the second case is true: Are you able to generate a mail to all the lists
containing such an information or should we do that on our own?

Thanks in advance
Bernhard
Comment 18 Unknown 2006-06-01 20:06:32 UTC
Unfortunately the 2nd case is true. We are trying to work with the community 
managers to see what's the best way to reach out to the community. Please 
update if the community can be made aware of this through some other means.  
Comment 19 bernhard 2006-06-01 20:26:12 UTC
If there is no chance for you as support to generate a mail that will be sent to
all the lists telling that the mails have to be resent, I'd suggest to send a
mail to project_leads@openoffice.org (I'm not a project lead, so the list name
could be wrong) with a link to the issue and the proposed solution.

Every project lead is subscribed to this list, so informations given there will
be spread into every project.

If the project leads forward your mail to their lists the issue will be solved
with just a few steps.

This could be done with every severe problem affecting the entire mailing lists
system.

Just a proposal - Community Manager and project leads are the ones to decide...

Best regards
Bernhard
Comment 20 lsuarezpotts 2006-06-01 22:17:12 UTC
I'll send a note to project_leads shortly. Thanks for the hint :-)


best
Louis
Comment 21 lohmaier 2006-06-01 22:25:03 UTC
so far to "CN doesn't silently drop mail"... :-(

If it rejects mail - fine. But then it should report so to the MDA.

Silently dropping mail is bad practice, even when it is only meant to avoid spam.
Comment 22 Unknown 2006-06-02 02:11:13 UTC
Those were my closing comments in Issue 62001 ;-) While that is true if only 
considering CEE, that comment does not take into account the involvement of 
the virus/spam filters in place before the mail reaches CEE. As have already  
been told by the CN internal team, I now stand corrected on this notion 
(silent dropped mails). CN is looking into ways to make sure that such 
occurences are eliminated.
Comment 23 lsuarezpotts 2006-06-02 04:33:59 UTC
sent note to project_leads.
Should this issue be closed?

Louis
Comment 24 merschmann 2006-06-02 08:10:50 UTC
1.) Support should have a kind of warning system for mailinglist-failures (e.g.
hoourly automatic mail to an unofficial list)
2.) It should be written down, that on the occurence of mail-failures the
projectlead-list has to be notified immdiaetely.

If these points are clear and ok for everybody, this issue can be closed.

Volker
Comment 25 Unknown 2006-06-02 08:22:10 UTC
Good points. I will take these to the internal team.
Comment 26 Unknown 2006-06-03 21:18:29 UTC
Closing this case.
Comment 27 Unknown 2006-10-10 06:47:11 UTC
Could we go ahead and close this issue .
Comment 28 stx123 2006-10-10 08:29:03 UTC
closing...