Created attachment 34165 [details]
msg silently dropped

Created attachment 34166 [details]
msg silently dropped

Please find attached two messages which didn't make it to the @openoffice.org 
address but were received successfully at the @yahoo.com resp. @sun.com account.

The mails hit the lists.

For those where I did put Stefan in CC, I now as well recieved mail-delivery
warnings (I didn't get any for the previous mails)

###
the usual "This is a warning-only text"

Your message could not be delivered for 4 hour(s).
It will be retried until it is 5 day(s) old.

For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster>

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

                   The Postfix program

<dev@de.openoffice.org>: connect to cylon2.sjc.collab.net[204.16.104.18]:
    Connection timed out

<st@openoffice.org>: connect to cylon2.sjc.collab.net[204.16.104.18]:
    Connection timed out

Reporting-MTA: dns; mail-in.m-online.net
X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 5B1A170413
X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; cloph@openoffice.org
Arrival-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 20:58:04 +0100 (CET)

Final-Recipient: rfc822; dev@de.openoffice.org
Original-Recipient: rfc822;dev@de.openoffice.org
Action: delayed
Status: 4.4.1
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 420 Unable to connect to server
Will-Retry-Until: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:58:04 +0100 (CET)

Final-Recipient: rfc822; st@openoffice.org
Original-Recipient: rfc822;st@openoffice.org
Action: delayed
Status: 4.4.1
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 420 Unable to connect to server
Will-Retry-Until: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:58:04 +0100 (CET)

#########################
One other warning-report includes the other mail-server as well:
                   The Postfix program

<dev@de.openoffice.org>: delivery temporarily suspended: connect to
    cylon2.sjc.collab.net[204.16.104.18]: Connection timed out

<st@openoffice.org>: connect to cylon1.sjc.collab.net[204.16.104.10]:
    Connection timed out

Reporting-MTA: dns; mail-in.m-online.net
X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 5726270692
X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; cloph@openoffice.org
Arrival-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 20:56:18 +0100 (CET)

Final-Recipient: rfc822; dev@de.openoffice.org
Original-Recipient: rfc822;dev@de.openoffice.org
Action: delayed
Status: 4.4.1
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 420 Unable to connect to server
Will-Retry-Until: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:56:18 +0100 (CET)

Final-Recipient: rfc822; st@openoffice.org
Original-Recipient: rfc822;st@openoffice.org
Action: delayed
Status: 4.4.1
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 420 Unable to connect to server
Will-Retry-Until: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:56:18 +0100 (CET)

############################

The only warning for one of the mails directly to a list (without putting
anybody in CC), was for a mail sent today night
<qa@de.openoffice.org>: connect to cylon2.sjc.collab.net[204.16.104.18]:
    Connection timed out

Reporting-MTA: dns; mail-in.m-online.net
X-Postfix-Queue-ID: BD9BE73BAE
X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; cloph@openoffice.org
Arrival-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 01:34:07 +0100 (CET)

Final-Recipient: rfc822; qa@de.openoffice.org
Original-Recipient: rfc822;qa@de.openoffice.org
Action: delayed
Status: 4.4.1
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 420 Unable to connect to server
Will-Retry-Until: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 01:34:07 +0100 (CET)

############################

So still the question is: Why were the first mails not delivered (although
other, newer ones/ones written in the same timeframe from others were delivered
without problems) and if there were server-problems, why didn't it report an
error-status?

We will take a close look of this issue.

may I ask when you will have a look?

The last comment is almost two months old now.

Hi Cloph,

Sorry for not updating this earlier. I had actually asked our operations team 
to check for any abnormalities, but they could not find any. They had asked us 
to gather more details; obviously we did not do that.

There is another related issue 63493 (more around SPAM/VIRUS filtering) that 
is also open. It is possible that there could have been glitches while trying 
to setup that configuration.

However, please let us know if you are still running into this. In the 
meantime we will check if from the old log files we can find any other details.

please have a look at issue 64090 as well.

Although my mails recently did make it to the mailinglist, a mail sent to a
mailing-list where I'm subscribed with another address has not been approved or
rejected. (I'm not sure whether it was delivered to the moderators and simply
overlooked, or whether it was dropped, as described in issue 64090)

Cloph, Issue 64090 is now closed since it was problem on the user's end. Are 
you still seeing the same issue? Please let us know.

Thanks

No, I'm not currently seing the problem.

If you can assure that future mails won't be silently dropped again, feel free
to close this issue.

I'd prefer if you could give a reason why the mails in question were dropped at all.

Hi Cloph,
It is possible that there were some mail integrity issues. For Issue 65396 we 
are running some scripts to fix these. However, I will keep this issue open 
for now to see if we are getting reports from other users around this.

Thanks

Closing this for now after the scripts were run to fix any mail integity. 
Please reopen should this happen again. For what it's worth, mails should not 
be dropped silently on the CEE end. Since we did not find any evidence yet, I 
am closing this issue. Any trace that leads to the fact that the mail reached 
the OOO MX on the CN end (*and* then was discarded without notice), will be 
immediately looked into.

closing, since it is now covered by issue 65953

PS: great to see that you did not get my comment to issue 65953 wrong :-)

reopen issue. I'm having the same problem again.

Mails from me are not delivered to the mailinglists.

Last mail that made it through was on april 4

I got no bounce/failure notice so far, but the mails don't show up in the
archives and were not delivered either. I still recieve mails from the lists..

Again I demand that mails must not be dropped silently.

The last mail that made it through was
http://de.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=users&msgNo=64536
The first that is dropped silently is:

From: Christian Lohmaier <cloph@openoffice.org>
Subject: Re: [de-users] Tabellenfehler
To: users@de.openoffice.org
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 20:14:02 +0200
Mail-Followup-To: users@de.openoffice.org
In-Reply-To: <4615005C.4010609@t-online.de>

Hi,

Thank you for contacting CollabNet customer support. Will initiate our research
based on the provided details & provide you an update once we have adequate
information.


Regards,
Jeeva
Support Operations

This time I feel like a fool, because the problem was at my end this time.
(openssl incompatibility)

Sorry for the inconvenience, restoring fixed issue-state.

closing.
"false alert"/my fault.