Issue 2593 - cross-references from Word documents; not possible to refer on paragraph number
Summary: cross-references from Word documents; not possible to refer on paragraph number
Status: ACCEPTED
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: code (show other issues)
Version: 641
Hardware: PC All
: P3 Trivial with 56 votes (vote)
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: 13150 16559 40518 47432 50667 60798 61705 71929 89326 94778 106518 112637 (view as issue list)
Depends on: 25072
Blocks: 71929
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Reported: 2001-12-19 19:13 UTC by Unknown
Modified: 2017-05-20 11:15 UTC (History)
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Sample cross-referencing document (23.00 KB, application/octet-stream)
2001-12-19 19:13 UTC, Unknown
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Faulty Word doc export of the odt file (20.50 KB, application/msword)
2009-06-02 18:20 UTC, moritzmhq
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The original odt file with working cross- references numbered paragraphs (20.32 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2009-06-02 18:22 UTC, moritzmhq
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Word DOC file with cross-references to numbered paragraphs (28.00 KB, application/msword)
2011-01-07 00:16 UTC, troy_rollo
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RTF files with cross-references to numbered paragraphs (13.74 KB, text/rtf)
2011-01-07 00:17 UTC, troy_rollo
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PDF file showing expected output from DOC and RTF tests files (10.90 KB, application/pdf)
2011-01-07 00:18 UTC, troy_rollo
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Description Unknown 2001-12-19 19:13:09 UTC
Importing cross-references to section numbers in Word documents doesn't quite
work right: the link text turned into the section name, rather than (or
sometimes in addition to) the section number.

In this quick sample document I created in Word 97, the last line should say:

  Subject to paragraph 2 subparagraph 2.1, stuff happens.

But instead it says:

  Subjec to paragraph Snort subparagraph Farkle, stuff happens.

Where "Snort" and "Farkle" are the titles next to the '2' and '2.1' headings.

The document was created simply by typing most of the text as-is into Word and
using auto-section numbering, and then inserting the cross references using the
menu.
Comment 1 Unknown 2001-12-19 19:13:38 UTC
Created attachment 839 [details]
Sample cross-referencing document
Comment 2 stefan.baltzer 2001-12-20 15:40:28 UTC
Reassigned to Michael.
Comment 3 michael.ruess 2002-01-10 10:14:16 UTC
MRU->FT: This is a feature of Word which Writer is not capable of
depicting it. Writer is not able to make a reference to simply
numbered paragraph (not outline numbering!).
Comment 4 cv105 2002-08-07 06:43:43 UTC
I notice this issue has an issue type of "Enhancement". It should remain as "Defect". 
This is because Writer is doing something with cross-references but not as 
expected.

The link text is replaced by the content of the paragraph referenced. 
In the example case reported, the paragraph is simply the fews words of the paragraph 
that is being used as the section name. If the paragraph contains many sentences of 
text, the link is replaced with those many sentences of text thereby interrupting the 
flow of the sentence containing the link.

Comment 5 karora 2003-01-14 00:32:19 UTC
From one of these comments it appears that a reference to the
paragraph with outline numbering should work.  AFAICS it does not.

I can create a bookmark in (say) paragraph 4.2.1.5.4 and then
referencce that somewhere else.  When I create the reference I can
choose the format "Page" which does what I expect, but if I select
"Chapter" format I just get "4" without the sublevels.  I can't see
how to get the full "4.2.1.5.4" to appear.

Ideally I would like to be able to select "Outline" for "Type" of
cross-reference in the dialog and then the outline paragraphs should
be listed in "Selection" for me to choose the one to refer too.

Sub-optimally, but usably, if I could just choose "Paragraph Number"
under "Format" for the reference and have the paragraph number for
that paragraph (i.e. formatted as defined in the outline numbering),
appear as my reference.

This should be OS:All too - I see the same problem under Windows and
Linux.
Comment 6 Unknown 2003-01-14 14:51:32 UTC
Since issue 4439 was marked as a duplicate of this issue, I am copying
the text from it here.  I, frankly, don't see issue 4439 as a
duplicate of this one: issue 4439 has nothing to do whatever with
importing word documents.

Text from 4439:

In Framemaker, we can insert cross-references to headings without
having to create a reference first. There is a much better chance that
my boss would use OOo or SO if it had this feature. Framemaker is
absolutely horrible, but this feature is why we use it.

The feature is in essence the creation and insertion of a
cross-reference based on paragraph style. A window is displayed
showing all the paragraph "tags" (as framemaker calls them) on the
left. On the right is displayed all of the paragraphs (or at least the
first line of each) having that tag. You then can select the paragraph
you want to cross-reference, and then click insert. On OOo, I would
need to create the cross-reference first, and then insert it where I
want it. This is not acceptable for large documents.
Comment 7 ingenstans 2003-06-01 12:44:57 UTC
*** Issue 13150 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 8 jilles 2003-06-05 11:18:32 UTC
The current functionality in open office hardly qualifies as
cross-reference. Essentially it is the bookmark functionality from
word with a more confusing user interface (IMHO don't bother to fix it
but replace it with something better). This is totally inadequate for
authoring large documents (anything structured > 5 pages). I write
documents with numbered sections, typically a few dozen tables and
figures and literature references. I need to be able to refer to all
of these and currently I can't in open office.

All major wordprocessors offer cross reference functionality that
allows you to refer to points in your document based on the structure
of the document. Word allows this for anything that is numbered,
figures, tables, formulas, etc. More importantly it allows for
different kind of references. You can refer to the page the referred
item occurs on, the full text of the referred item or the number that
it has. 

As argued by others, Framemaker offers an even more superior
mechanism. Basically, you can define your own reference formats e.g.
"See \`<$paratext>\' on page\ <$pagenum>.". The major advantage of
this is that you can simply change the reference format and your
document will change accordingly (e.g. to "See <$paranum>:
\`<$paratext>\' on page\ <$pagenum>.").

Essentially framemaker inserts a generic anchor near the referred
paragraph when you refer to a paragraph. Some field code is inserted
at the place you insert the reference that associates this anchor with
a reference format. If you delete the item, you end up with broken
crossreferences, which is detected by framemaker if you update the
references. It also includes a UI for locating and fixing broken
references.

What I would like to see in open office is something that is at least
as powerful as word (if only to import/export word documents
correctly, it currently messes up all my documents because of this
bug) and preferably as powerful as framemaker (but with a friendlier
UI of course). 

I think this issue is incorrectly labeled as an enhancement. As long
as word compatibility is still a goal for open office, this should be
considered as a defect (and a show stopping one for me, I need this).
Comment 9 Unknown 2003-06-05 14:47:53 UTC
Dude, I respectfully admit that you're crazy.  The cross-references in OOo do all  
those things you just said.  It's *word* cross-references that suck :)  
  
That said, I do think this is a defect, because it really doesn't bloody import word  
files properly, even though it has all the features necessary to do so.  
  
(Note that I haven't re-tested this since the original bug report, having mostly  
given up importing word documents for now.)  
  
Comment 10 jilles 2003-06-11 09:42:31 UTC
I don't like to be called dude/crazy and you're wrong. All versions of
open office (including 1.1beta) I tested were unable to do the following:

- Write structured text using outline numbering, numbered figures,
tables, etc..
- Click insert crossreference
- Select a numbered item from a list (e.g. section 2.3.4.5) that is
presented to you
- Select that you want to refer to the outline number of said heading
(or the page number, or the heading + text, etc.)

This IMHO is one of the simplest use-cases for cross-references and
OOo currently does not support it. Something similar needs to be
provided in order to do round trip editing of word documents. 
The open office way of doing this is to make a bookmark to the number
of whatever you want to refer to. This is tedious, error-prone and not
the same thing. In word, bookmarks are just one of the many things you
can refer to. In OOo there's only bookmarks.

Converting word cross-references to bookmarks (which I gather is what
you are suggesting as a quick fix to this serious defect) would mess
up as soon as you export back to word. 
Comment 11 Unknown 2003-06-11 18:24:59 UTC
But this is why I said you're crazy... I do this all the time.  Not with numbered lists 
(which it seems you're right, you can't link to) but at least with numbered section 
headings, figures, and captions.  I use OpenOffice 1.0.2 currently. 
 
Go to Tools|Outline numbering.  Enable numbers for sections. 
 
Insert some headings using the Heading1 (etc) styles. 
 
Insert|Field|Other, Chapter, Number and Name, then choose the section you want. 
 
Done.  What's the problem? 
 
(Note to skimmers: read the rest of the bug report.  This is NOT the point of this 
bug, so just the fact that this feature works doesn't make the bug resolved. :)) 
 
Comment 12 jilles 2003-06-11 19:56:34 UTC
I have done exactly as you said and no luck in 1.1beta2 (the UI is
there but my heading 2 paragraphs don't show up in it). I recall that
this was the case for previous versions I tried as well (641D, 1.0,
1.0.1 1.1 beta and now 1.1 beta2) so either I'm nuts or maybe I have a
valid point here?

Just to be sure: I created a document with one section (heading 1) and
two subsections (heading 2), enabled outline numbering for these
styles and attempted to insert a reference in the second subsection to
the number of the first subsection (i.e. 1.1). I do exactly as you
say. I select 'chapter' type and the 'chapter number' format in the
'fields' dialog (document tab). The expected behavior would be a list
of all numbered chapters in the middle column (aptly named 'select').
Interestingly, the default template does not come with a predefined
chapter paragraph format (i.e. bad naming in the dialog) and none of
my heading 1 or 2 paragraphs show up in the select column. 

The insert field pops up the exact same dialog as insert crossrefence
only with a different tab selected (very confusing). None of the other
tabs offers a way for me to select one of my heading 2 paragraphs and
have a reference to its number inserted in the text. This dialog is a
wonder of unusability, by the way (and I thought framemaker was
unfriendly). The best thing probably is to redesign this part of the UI.

Anyway, I'm willing to take your word that the infrastructure is there
and that all that remains to be done to connect it to the UI and the
import/export functionality. If so, please do it before 1.1 final.

The field code that is generated by the ui in Word is "\Ref paranum /r
/h". These last two options tell word to refer the number and to
create a hyperlink to the referred paragraph. It's not rocket science
and something similar needs to be provided in OOo. The only thing the
import/export should be doing is convert the paragraph number and the
field codes to the appropriate OOo alternatives.

There's a related few issues filed on crossreferences (others I'm
aware of are 3802, 4439, 13150). They all refer to each other claiming
that they are each others duplicates. The obvious way to address them
all is to properly implement crossreferences. 
Comment 13 Unknown 2003-06-11 20:19:39 UTC
Note that I'm not an OpenOffice developer - I'm just a mostly-happy user who's 
being doing chapter references exactly as I described since at least StarOffice 5.0. 
 
While I was writing the instructions above, I was doing exactly what I said in a 
blank OpenOffice 1.0.2 writer document.  So, well, I'm afraid I don't know what's 
going wrong for you. 
 
I agree that the UI is horrible (particularly if you make a lot of references - all that 
clicking drives me crazy) but I think you should file a separate bug if you think so.  
This bug is mine, all mine! 
 
Comment 14 jilles 2003-06-11 20:52:44 UTC
I'm having a hard time believing you because I can't replicate the
behaviour in my version of open office (and I really want to). I'm not
an idiot, I take your instructions to the letter it doesn't work.  In
any case, I feel I've wasted enough of my time. 

Maybe some of the official developers (bug owner perhaps) would be
willing to shed some light on this issue?  I get a strong feeling of
being ignored here and that doesn't motivate me to continue to
contribute to issuezilla. 
Comment 15 Unknown 2003-06-11 21:33:38 UTC
Uh, erm... I take it all back.  I'm a big stupid liar. 
 
The instructions I gave only create a reference to the *current* chapter, which I 
just realized is all I have tried to do in recent times.  You can create references to 
tables and figures in the way I described, but that doesn't help you. 
 
I can't believe I even followed my own instructions and thought it was working, but 
I didn't check to see that the link I created could be created to point *anywhere* 
instead of to the current chapter. 
 
Sorry.  In that case, this lack of feature really *does* explain my bug. 
 
Comment 16 bryancole 2003-07-14 14:24:47 UTC
I read this thread with interest. I think it's universally agreed: The
UI to cross-references in OOo-Writer *sucks*.

I think you *can* do the things you describe but it's very very
non-intuitive. For EVERY heading/section/chapter/figure/object you
wish to cross-reference, you need to "Set" the reference. Using the
language of LateX, this means creating a marker which cross-references
can refer to. The "Set References" procedure was missed out by Jilles
in his description of creating his cross-references.

You create the references (the markers, not the cross-references) by
1) opening the Fields dialog 2) Select the "References" tab 3)
Highlight "Set Reference" 4) Enter a label for the new reference-point
in the text field then hit insert (with the cursor at the appropriate
point in the heading etc.). Set references to any and every point you
will wish to cross-reference.

Now you've set some references in your document, you can start
inserting *cross-references* to them, using Fields...->Insert
Reference. The previously defined references appear in the Selection
column. If you want numbered cross-references then 1) Outline
Numbering (NOT conventional Numbering) must be selected for the
relevent paragraph/heading styles. 2) The reference format must be set
to "Chapter" (regardless of whether the style relates to a chapter or
anything else!).

Note, if you want to cross-reference a numbered list, then you must
use Outline Numbering to create the numbers. Do this by 1) turning off
conventional numbering, if it was on 2) create a new custom
paragraph-style for the list items and set the list items to this
style 3) Choose an un-used Outline Numbering level (e.g. level 10, 9
or 8 etc) and set it to use the list-item style. 4) Select the
appropriate Number Format for this numbering-level. You then need to
add references (using Set Reference, as described above) at each item
in the list that you wish to cross-reference, and finally you can
insert in your documents the cross-references to the reference-points.

Does this do everything required? I totally agree this is a completely
crazy UI but once you "get" it, it is mostly functional. The main
problems, as I see it are 1) confusion between Outline Numbering and
conventional Numbering. 2) The "Set Reference" procedure is
long-winded and hard to find in the "Fields..." dialog. 

BTW, I'm not a OO developer, but a sympathetic user.
HTH
Bryan
Comment 17 jilles 2003-07-23 08:50:41 UTC
This looks like it might work. Thanks! unfortunately I don't have time
to try it out (full inbox due to recent return from holiday :-( )
right now. I'll see if I can give it a try with the new RC1.

Regardless of that, the procedure is tedious (as all seem to agree)
and end-users are unlikely to figure this out. As I pointed out
earlier this is more like a bookmarking facility than like a cross
referencing facility.

IMHO the following problems remain:
- distinction between outline and regular numbering is nonsensical and
can be seen as a poor design choice. Obviously any automatically
generated number should be referable. Actually all relevant properties
of a paragraph should be referable. As a minimum, all stuff that can
be referred to in ms word should also be available in open-office
because this currently impairs compatibility.
- reference markers should be automatically generated for things that
might be referred OR some mechanism should be available to query a
document for referable stuff and dynamically insert a marker when one
is needed. I think this is essentially what word does under the hood.
Having to mark things manually is tedious and completely unnecessary.
- The UI for making crossreferences needs to be re-thought. It's ugly,
complex and full of usability issues.
Comment 18 jilles 2003-07-25 08:57:08 UTC
I tried Bryan's suggestions and it works.
Comment 19 rblackeagle 2003-07-25 18:13:29 UTC
If you try to do this with sub-documents in a Master Document, the
References field does not have the References for other sub-documents
(I would not expect it to). So how would I go about "doing" the
cross-reference across sub-documents?
Comment 20 falko.tesch 2003-08-15 13:05:56 UTC
Hi Andreas, before this thread goes completely OT please have a
(technical) look into the initial issues: Importing a Word doc.
If it is possible to preserve/import/export this issue you might want
to go for it.
Regarding the "Writer UI sucks" issue please note that we do not have
this as an item for 2.0 (see PCD) so you possibly need to split this
issue up and retarget the latter to "oo.o later".
Comment 21 andreas.martens 2003-08-25 08:45:25 UTC
Hi Caolán, when I'm right we need for our field "references" a new
format "Numbering" to show the numbering level (similiar to our format
"chapter") of the referenced paragraph.
Is that right or do you have another idea to improve the import?
Comment 22 caolanm 2003-08-25 09:41:33 UTC
Yes thats right, the option in word is "\r" which is "inserts the
paragraph number of the marked paragraph in relative context", there
are also \n and \w which have similiar purposes. (I admit I'm a little
hazy on the differences between the three options as they've the same
result for simple examples). The closest option we have at the moment
is chapter, so we try that.
Comment 23 andreas.martens 2003-08-29 13:49:47 UTC
AMA->HBrinkm: So we've to find out if it's possible and what's the
effort to have such a format for references.
Comment 24 openoffice 2003-09-25 10:32:32 UTC
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Comment 25 guido.pinkernell 2004-01-31 18:48:46 UTC
Quoting :
------- Additional comments from ama Sun Aug 24 23:45:25 -0800 2003 -------
Hi Caolán, when I'm right we need for our field "references" a new
format "Numbering" to show the numbering level (similiar to our format
"chapter") of the referenced paragraph.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Issue 2204 is about easying and extending the cross referencing features, among
those to numbered paragraphs. Once they have been introduced this Issue can be
solved, I suppose. So I set this Issue to depend on Issue 2204.

I'd like to ask all those who have voted here to transfer their votes to Issue
2204. To speed things up. This cross referencing feature sure need to be
implemented soon.
Comment 26 openoffice 2004-02-04 15:42:44 UTC
new parent (specification)
estimated effort

In test.doc there is no outline numbering. It is a normal numbering of
paragraphs. There is no reference to numbered paragraphs in OOo yet. Therefore
this is an enhancement.
Comment 27 iannz 2004-03-16 21:52:52 UTC
As I understand this issue:
The test file has not used outline numbering as such - each paragraph is of
style normal (Word) or default (Writer). These paragraph numbers are directly
applied and are not outline numbered. Writer currently doesn't have a way of
cross-referencing the numbering of paragraphs other than using outlining.
Changing these paragraphs to styles Heading1, Heading2 etc and removing the
existing numbering then applying Outline numbering and the references to the
numbers will work. I.e. an enhancement of being able to cross-reference to the
numbering of any paragraph regardless of how it is numbered would solve this issue.

Word implements cross referencing by using hidden bookmarks. Hidden in this
context means that they do not show up in Words user interface. They are
accessible via VBA macros. The importing of these bookmarks works - the only
differance being that they are now visible in Writers user interface, and as
mentioned above that cross-referencing to their paragraph numbers does not work
(unless they are outline numbered).

Writer has a new concept of being able to set references. One of the advantages
of this feature over Word's is that with field shading turned on it is possible
for the user to see exactly what text is being referenced.

The user interface of Writer does lack the ability to easily set such references
and to do cross referencing in one hit. Thus I have written a macro to do just
that. See:
http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/hillview/OOo/
and issue 2204.

Word has the ability, apparently, to have the numbering be relative see issue:
20555. I say "apparently" because I can not get this to work for me in Word
2000. Assuming that it does work in Word (and from other posters comments I
assume that it does), Writer does not have the ability for relative referencing
so this too would be a feature enhancement request.

I hope this helps - Ian Laurenson
Comment 28 openoffice 2004-05-17 15:47:22 UTC
removed from OOo 2.0 agenda
Comment 29 michael.ruess 2004-05-26 11:11:43 UTC
P4 should be a more better value for this enhancement.
Comment 30 thorsten.ziehm 2004-07-13 12:11:50 UTC
This task is retarget to OOo2.0. The product team has decided, that this is a
must feature for OOo 2.0. 
Comment 31 Martin Hollmichel 2004-08-09 14:02:30 UTC
according to http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=releases&msgNo=7690
this issue will be set to OOoLater
Comment 32 iavor 2004-11-24 13:59:17 UTC
When is OOo Later going to be?
Comment 33 michael.ruess 2005-02-23 14:09:26 UTC
*** Issue 40518 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 34 michael.ruess 2005-06-14 07:42:27 UTC
*** Issue 50667 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 35 michael.ruess 2006-01-19 09:37:13 UTC
*** Issue 60798 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 36 michael.ruess 2006-02-07 08:21:50 UTC
Made summary more significant
Comment 37 michael.ruess 2006-02-07 08:22:12 UTC
*** Issue 61705 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 38 michael.ruess 2006-02-10 10:22:52 UTC
*** Issue 47432 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 39 michael.ruess 2006-12-13 16:52:17 UTC
*** Issue 71929 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 40 troy_rollo 2007-12-11 23:03:38 UTC
The blocking issue (25072) has been implemented in cws swcrossref01 with a 
target of 3.0
Comment 41 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann 2007-12-13 07:32:19 UTC
OD->HBRINKM:
Please check, if you can consider this enhancement for OOo 3.0
Comment 42 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann 2007-12-13 07:33:38 UTC
Another note: Please check, if this enhancement can be considered also for text
documents in RTF file format.
Comment 43 Mathias_Bauer 2008-04-21 13:48:43 UTC
All resources in the interop area for 3.0 are consumed by our docx import.
Please send any complaints to Redmond. Target now 3.x.
Comment 44 michael.ruess 2008-05-14 08:17:02 UTC
*** Issue 89326 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 45 phil_ 2008-05-14 13:20:30 UTC
With issue 25072 being resolved, this issue might be easier to resolve as well?
Comment 46 stgries 2008-08-29 02:09:49 UTC
As much as i want to move away from Word, not being able to insert
cross-references to numbered lists is just insane. In linguistics, we need to be
able to refer to numbered examples all the time; in statistics, we need to refer
to numbered equations (and that is also clumsy enough). How am I supposed to
write anything longer than 20 pages (or even the occasional book) without this
feature? PLEASE make this a priority!!!
Comment 47 bulbul 2008-08-29 08:59:28 UTC
There is a concrete example of the use of numbered examples in linguistics in
the (duped) issue 2204 (see the March 29, 2004 comment). I would like to confirm
stgries's comment that the lack of this feature makes OOo impractical for
writing linguistics articles of any length, and i have often had to express
reservation to colleagues interested in switching to OOo for just this reason. I
am now writing a 25-page article, with about 100 examples. In Word or Latex, if
i remove example (1), all of the numberings, including the references to them,
change automatically. In OOo, i have to go through and renumber each one
manually. This is nothing i could ever recommend to a colleague.
Comment 48 gnustavo 2008-10-03 13:59:14 UTC
Another type of document, nearer to the software development world, where this
feature is a "must have" is a requirements specification. Our requirements
analysts weren't able to switch over to OOo and are stuck with Word because they
use numbered lists heavily to describe the steps in their Use Case scenarios and
need to make cross references to the steps along the document.

We're planing to automate the extraction of these requirements from a document
to insert them in a structured tool for analysis. Our original goal was to
extract it from a ODF document, but since they will be .doc documents our script
will need to first convert the documents and then extract the information.
Comment 49 michael.ruess 2008-10-27 13:57:02 UTC
The feature has now been implemented into Writer. It is now possible to refer to
paragraph numberings. Filter now needs to be adapted to import this correctly
without using the Ref to a Bookmark anymore.
Comment 50 michael.ruess 2008-10-27 14:10:27 UTC
*** Issue 16559 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 51 michael.ruess 2008-10-27 14:20:56 UTC
*** Issue 94778 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 52 moritzmhq 2009-06-02 18:19:56 UTC
Actually, this is the last bug blocking serious business use for me as a
corporate lawyer. We use numbered references all the time and of course I cannot
force everyone to use OO.o. It is great that OOo can do this by itself now, but
it is not yet compatible...

The current behaviour in 3.1 - turning all references to numbered paragraphs of
an OOo file into unresolved references within the Word file makes OOo unusable
for my kind of work. A stopgap measure would be to export plain text rather than
errors.

May I also kindly suggest updating the title of this bug to reflect that only
the MS Word import and export filter must be updated. Suggested new title:
"Update Word filters to handle cross-references to paragraph-numbers"
Comment 53 moritzmhq 2009-06-02 18:20:52 UTC
Created attachment 62724 [details]
Faulty Word doc export of the odt file
Comment 54 moritzmhq 2009-06-02 18:22:20 UTC
Created attachment 62725 [details]
The original odt file with working cross- references numbered paragraphs
Comment 55 michael.ruess 2009-11-02 09:30:21 UTC
*** Issue 106518 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 56 eric.savary 2010-06-23 19:50:50 UTC
*** Issue 112637 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 57 troy_rollo 2010-06-25 23:06:22 UTC
What is the progress on this issue? It seems to have had a status of "Started" 
for some time now. Given the current behaviour it seems like this would be an 
easy one to finish off if it is given sufficient priority. If it's been 
stalled due to lack of priority I'm sure I can get enough votes moved to this 
issue to raise its priority.
Comment 58 forwarn 2010-06-28 12:41:50 UTC
As a law firm, we are also very keen for this feature to be fixed and working 
as soon as possible.
We are actually willing to pay for someone to fix this issue, and urge someone 
to contact us regarding this for an open and informal discussion. If any of the 
OpenOffice developers want to discuss this further then please contact either 
myself or my colleague (we both work within the IT Department of Ford & Warren 
Solicitors.

Karl Handley, Senior IT Developer
Email: karl.handley@forwarn.com

Garry Lodge, IT Developer
Email: garry.lodge@forwarn.com

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Comment 59 moritzmhq 2010-08-12 17:00:20 UTC
Is this long-standing major defect being taken care of in OO3.3? 

I would love to be able to use OO at work, but if I cannot exchange documents
with dynamic references in word format reliably, that's a nogo. Instead of
adding pretty diagrams to OO, how about fixing key functionality that's missing?
Comment 60 troy_rollo 2010-11-25 01:59:58 UTC
Fixing this correctly will also require fixing 94995
Comment 61 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann 2010-11-25 07:56:23 UTC
CC myself
Comment 62 troy_rollo 2011-01-07 00:16:06 UTC
Created attachment 75484 [details]
Word DOC file with cross-references to numbered paragraphs
Comment 63 troy_rollo 2011-01-07 00:17:11 UTC
Created attachment 75485 [details]
RTF files with cross-references to numbered paragraphs
Comment 64 troy_rollo 2011-01-07 00:18:04 UTC
Created attachment 75486 [details]
PDF file showing expected output from DOC and RTF tests files
Comment 65 forwarn 2011-08-23 15:55:43 UTC
This bug was reported nearly 10 years ago now.  This really is not good enough.  I, like many others on this bug report page, have been waiting far too long for this.  Is there any progress on this at all?  Is there any chance of it actually ever being fixed?
Comment 66 Marcus 2017-05-20 11:15:45 UTC
Reset assigne to the default "issues@openoffice.apache.org".