Issue 1780 - NNTP Service for openoffice.org's mailing lists missing
Summary: NNTP Service for openoffice.org's mailing lists missing
Status: CLOSED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Infrastructure
Classification: Infrastructure
Component: Mailing lists (show other issues)
Version: current
Hardware: All All
: P2 Trivial (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Unknown
QA Contact: issues@www
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Depends on: 2071 2480 2522 2812 3020 3191 3192 3454
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Reported: 2001-10-04 14:36 UTC by stx123
Modified: 2003-12-06 14:52 UTC (History)
9 users (show)

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Issue Type: FEATURE
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Description stx123 2001-10-04 14:36:33 UTC
To have an issue for communicating status and problems regarding the NNTP 
service for openoffice.org's mailing lists.
Comment 1 stx123 2001-10-04 15:21:14 UTC
My understanding of the status is:
- news server installed with the name news.ooo
- test groups created (ooo.test.announce, ooo.test.users,ooo.test.cvs)

Despite the fact that I got no "official" message to start testing I 
would like to provide the following feedback for ooo.test.users:
mail -> news: Messages sent via mail to list appear on the news 
server.

news -> mail
Messages sent via news to group DON'T appear on the mail list.
This seems to be caused by the wrong status of the group. The group 
(not mailing list) has to be moderated with appropriate settings in 
the moderators file.

What's the moderators mail address?
Comment 2 Martin Hollmichel 2001-10-12 16:46:55 UTC
Hello, are there any updates on this, is anybody alive at collab ?
Comment 3 Martin Hollmichel 2001-10-12 16:47:17 UTC
Hello, are there any updates on this, is anybody alive at collab ?
Comment 4 Unknown 2001-10-17 03:04:49 UTC
Hi - the zombies rise again. Sorry for the delay. We have an internal 
issue #3555 that I've put to the highest priority to get answered for 
you. I'll update this issue as soon as I get you the information you 
require.

Comment 5 Unknown 2001-10-17 19:28:13 UTC
Hi,

I am sorry it has taken so long to get back to you on this. The
moderator's mail address for ooo.test.users would be:

gateway=nntp2mail-ooo-test-users@openoffice.org

Thank you
Kat
Comment 6 Martin Hollmichel 2001-10-19 14:29:59 UTC
I played now with the users list:
I generated postings from news.openoffice.org, our internal-news
server and the mailing list -> all messages appears on the mailing
list and our internal news server, but not on the NNTP Server
news.openoffice.org.
Comment 7 Unknown 2001-10-19 22:43:19 UTC
Hi,

It is suspected that the problem is that diablo is refusing
articles/messages because the groups are moderated and it's not
finding an Approved: line in the header. We are continuing to research
this.

Thank you
Kat
Comment 8 Martin Hollmichel 2001-10-23 18:42:54 UTC
behaviour for the users lists looks fine now.

can I become a moderator for the ooo.test.announce list to test this 
list ?

Comment 9 Unknown 2001-10-23 19:34:06 UTC
Hi Martin,

Most of the details have been worked out and I will put in the request
to have you added to the moderators list.

Thank you
Kat
Comment 10 Martin Hollmichel 2001-10-24 17:09:09 UTC
Hm, if I now post to test.announce I get exactly this message I have
posted before, but there is no chance to moderate ?
Comment 11 Martin Hollmichel 2001-10-24 18:00:44 UTC
Ok, now more precise the behavior for the annouce list.

1. if i post via news.openoffice.org (nntp) to the announce list I get
the chance to moderate this and all looks fine.

2. if I post this with our interal news server, I get the original
message via: to:
openoffice-moderators@staroffice-news.germany.sun.com. This might be
our internal configuration problem, Stefan ?

3. If I post to the mailing list test-announce@openoffice.org I get
the origianl message via the the mailing list without moderation, but
it is not visiable on news.openoffice.org.
Comment 12 stx123 2001-10-27 01:07:56 UTC
Martin, Max, please don't mix up openoffice.test.* with ooo.test.* on
our Sun internal server.
openoffice.* works using our own gatewaying mechanism and is not
subject of testing news.openoffice.org.
ooo.* is the hierarchy to be tested.

2. if I post this with our interal news server, I get the original
message via: to:
openoffice-moderators@staroffice-news.germany.sun.com. This might be
our internal configuration problem, Stefan?
ST: It is (or better was) our problem.

3. If I post to the mailing list test-announce@openoffice.org I get
the origianl message via the the mailing list without moderation, but
it is not visiable on news.openoffice.org.
ST: I can't reproduce Martin's problem. Sending to the list
test-announce@openoffice.org works for me.
I will check with Martin.
Comment 13 stx123 2001-10-27 01:39:11 UTC
Tests results so far:
List types moderated (ooo.test.announce) and unmoderated
(ooo.test.users) work.

Open issues:
a) ooo.test.cvs doesn't work.
Please subscribe the appropriate gateway mail address to the list
cvs@test.openoffice.org or name the address which I can subscribe.
b) List type allowed-posters should be tested.
Please create the group ooo.test.features and subscribe the
appropriate gateway mail address to the list
features@test.openoffice.org or name the address which I can
subscribe.
Comment 14 Unknown 2001-10-30 17:08:39 UTC
Hi,

Our operations department is taking a look at the issues raised in
points in Stefan's last posting.

Thank you
Kat
Comment 15 stx123 2001-10-30 20:42:03 UTC
In parallel to a) and b) mentioned before or after that I would like
to see
c) newsfeed between news.openoffice.org and ns.stardiv.de
(62.156.160.99) being setup.
Comment 16 Unknown 2001-11-06 17:05:20 UTC
Our operations department reports adding ooo.test.features and ask for
this to be tested.

Thank you
Kat
Comment 17 Unknown 2001-11-08 17:50:21 UTC
assigning to myself
Comment 18 stx123 2001-11-08 22:57:25 UTC
I would like to see added groups being tested.
Mail forwarding ooo.test.features couldn't work because the gateway 
email address wasn't subscribed to the list.
I subscribed the newsgroup gateway address now to lists cvs@test and 
features@test and it works now.
In the future I would like to see 1 posting in the group to show that 
the group works, before I start testing.

Any new about the feed?
Comment 19 Unknown 2001-11-14 07:06:40 UTC
Our operations department reports that the newsfeed is now setup
properly on our end and is currently queueing articles to your news
server.
In order for this to work you need to be connecting to and accepting
connections from nntp.sfo.collab.net. The feed server is listening on
port 435.

Comment 20 stx123 2001-11-14 22:44:58 UTC
> In order for this to work you need to be connecting to and accepting
> connections from nntp.sfo.collab.net. 
ns.stardiv.de accepts articles from nntp.sfo.collab.net and articles
are coming in. Thanks.

> The feed server is listening on port 435.
Connection establishment to nntp.sfo.collab.net:435 doesn't work,. As
far as I can see that's no problem as articles are submitted via the
NNTP-moderators mechanism and not via the feed from ns.stardiv.de to
nntp.sfo...

We still have an issue (which is solved for netbeans) with mail
messages addressed to 2 list. A newsserver doesn't accept the second
messges and rejects as duplicate. They only appear on one list. See my
message "mail to 2 lists" sent to cvs@test and users@test.

The solution for netbeans was to modify the message id in the
mail2news gateway by adding the newsgroup
<ooo.test.users/123123123@somehost>.
Comment 21 Unknown 2001-11-15 03:31:08 UTC
Hi,

Ops has made some modifications and report that posts to multiple
newsgroups/mailinglists now work.
Comment 22 stx123 2001-11-15 16:46:52 UTC
That works fine. Thanks
That's it for testing.
Comment 23 stx123 2001-11-15 18:30:48 UTC
Next step would be to create newsgroups for (almost) all OOo mailing
lists.
Could please evaluate whether adding the gateway-emailaddress can be
added in an automated fashion.
Or do we have to subscribe the address to ~100 lists manually.
Comment 24 Unknown 2001-11-16 00:34:02 UTC
Our operations department feels this can be automated and would like a
complete list of newsgroups to be added.
Comment 25 Unknown 2001-11-17 06:19:47 UTC
accepting issues
Comment 26 stx123 2001-12-07 17:11:17 UTC
I take this as the collector of all NNTP related issues (e.g. 2071, ...)
Comment 27 Unknown 2002-01-15 18:46:30 UTC
Reassigning all of kat's open issues to support so that I can go through them.
Comment 28 Unknown 2002-01-15 19:20:48 UTC
Okay, we'll leave this as an umbrella issue.  The current open issues
are issue 2071 and issue 2812.
Comment 29 Unknown 2002-02-20 00:47:37 UTC
Most of the issues relating to this issue were closed.  We are still
working on getting historical posts onto the nntp server (issue 2522),
and louis is working on a moderation concept for nntp (issue 2071). 
I'm closing this issues, as the others stand on their own fine.
Comment 30 joergwartenberg 2002-03-08 22:50:20 UTC
Hi

there are no new mails on the newsserver since the last weekend.

Jörg
Comment 31 schulten 2002-03-11 09:59:25 UTC
The group ooo.lang.users_de is missing. 
The corresponding mailinglist has been created just recently, so 
obviously the process for new mailinglists doesn't include an 
information for the nntp gateway management yet.

Dietrich
Comment 32 stx123 2002-03-11 10:04:43 UTC
Hi Dietrich,
this issue (#1780) is in state RESOLVED/FIXED.
Please don't reuse existing issue for new ones.
I would recommend to submit a new issue.
Comment 33 michael.bemmer 2003-03-24 08:22:30 UTC
As agreed by Louis I will close these resolved fixed support-owned issues now.
If you have trouble with that, please re-open the issue.
Comment 34 michael.bemmer 2003-03-24 08:26:59 UTC
As agreed by Louis I will close these resolved fixed support-owned issues now.
If you have trouble with that, please re-open the issue.