Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla – Issue 24969
[RFE] Presentation should play a sound file over more than one slide
Last modified: 2008-02-28 10:58:23 UTC
In PowerPoint it is possible to attach a sound file to a slide in a presentation, and enable that sound to continue playing over the next x slides (user-definable number). I use it to play an MP3 song while displaying the lyrics onscreen. OOo Impress suffers two problems in this area: 1. It can't play MP3s (unless I'm particularly braindead in my efforts to do so) 2. It can't play a sound file over more than one slide. This is a powerpoint compatibility bug and a real problem for me.
Reassigned to Christian.
This is not a bug but a feature. Please have a look.
reassign to bh
Please only one enhancement per issue. For case 1. please refer to issue ID 45698. I adjust the summary for case 2.
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Additional comment from closed duplicate Issue 59725 (transferred by 'ace_dent', comment by 'crosstrax'): QUOTE/ "Music does not play from one slide to another". This is a very common and much used feature in PP97 and must be fixed. People want to hear the music play (regardless of what type) until they assign a "stop music" (which is in your drop down menu) to one of the transitions of the slide show. At this time the music only goes for the length of time that the transition takes, not even the length of time that the slide is displayed! /QUOTE Regards, Andrew
This would be an awesome addition to the Open Office Suite. Does anyone know when it might be looked at?
I haven't tried to do this, but having seen the recent thread on the users list, I stumbled on a couple of possible solutions. 1. RaccoonShow - http://www.jonobacon.org/projects/raccoonshow/ This takes a pdf presentation and blends it with an audio file, using a text file to specify the timings, into a flash file. It appears to be Linux specific 2. W3C SMIL spec - http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-smil/ I would have thought that this would be relatively simple to implement as an export filter. Barrie
The capability to play a sound file through a presentation has been in Excel since at least 1997. That some are willing to stand on their heads to make it happen should indicate that it's an important feature.
It'd be great to see this issue marked as a P3 or a P2. I think it does affect a lot of users. Ignoring the fact that this would make Powerpoint easier to leave behind, it would make a presentation software that offers more functionality and would be much more attractive. Steven
This seems like a very important issue stopping MS being left behind, from the number of comments and duplicate issues.
I'll keep this alive by posting again, and I'll check out RacoonShow.
There is another app which may be useful, Limsee2. It is a Java app, which outputs SMIL format and can import Impress slides. http://wam.inrialpes.fr/software/limsee2/ http://www.ercim.org/publication/Ercim_News/enw62/deltour.html
In 02/01/2006, the user linux_karen say: "This is a powerpoint compatibility bug and a real problem for me" 2,5 years later I re-write: This is a powerpoint compatibility bug and a real problem for me. Don't forget this bug :-)
I think better if the reporter attch a sample bugs file, so developer can see if something missing when opened in OOo. I believe that will help make it faster for considering the bugs. Thanks
The difficulty in demonstrating this bug with a sample is that the sound file isn't embedded directly into the presentation file. At least, with my meager PowerPoint/Impress skills I haven't gotten the same functionality with an embedded object as a linked sound. And, to complicate things PowerPoint (once again with my limited knowledge) doesn't seem to allow you to set the file path as relative. I don't even know if Impress will allow you to do that. (Relative file paths would be far superior for various obvious reasons.) That said, I'll attach a rar archive that works correctly in PowerPoint. If you don't get the intended results at first, you should be able to get the same results by inserting the sound file (or any sound file) from scratch and matching all of the custom animation settings for the sound in this file.
Created attachment 40198 [details] Sample (may require some fidgeting to work correctly)
Created attachment 40199 [details] Sample.zip (in case you can't open a rar file)
to BH: Please consider this RFE, because many duplicates and also have many votes. and the data I think is enough. Thanks
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this is a major compatibity issue for us with PowerPoint in our education environment K-12
It is hard to understand why this is listed as a P4. When it come to the functionality of "Presentation" this is a much needed feature. The truth is failure to include this feature is limited the adoption of OpenOffice on the office, school, and church computer. This needs to be moved to P3 or P2 level and resolved before the next release or MS PowerPoint will continue to be the Presentation software of choice.
i agree (move it to p3 or p2) we have students complain about this LITTLE issue on many schools in which we installed OpenOffice
I worked for a company, Micrografx, that made a competitive product to PowerPoint called Charisma. This is one of the things that users clamored for, and that we delivered in Charisma 4.0. In 1992. So I agree that OOo needs to get with the 21st century and make this functionality a priority.
I can't believe that there is no activity on this issue. Every second question in the impress-forum is: How can I play music over all slides? The priority should be P3 or P2 not P4 and the target milestone should be 2.2, 2.2.1 or 2.3! It could not be So difficult to ad this simple feature.
cosmo81, suggest people register at http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/Join and vote for this issue (leaving additional comments would be redundant and counterproductive as it will just annoy developers). Hopefully when counter reaches 200 Sun will consider this enhancement for implementation.
A few changes to make it more visible to developers looking for something to do. We can't set the target without a developer. It's not needed to add comments here since most developers won't read them. To vote is a good thing to acquire visibility, so you can ask the people you meet who wants this enhancement added to the product to vote for it.
Restore 'Version' due to <http://www.openoffice.org/bugs/bug_writing_guidelines.html> ("Version: In which product version did you first find the issue?")
"If applicable". It's a request for enhancement Rainer. The version where you find an issue is useful for new bugs or regressions, since it makes a lot easier for the developers to track it. "The version someone first request for an enhancement" doesn't matter at all.
Rainer: discuss it in the QA mailing list if you dislike it for any reason, changing it to 2.0. I've started a thread about this topic.
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Adding cc of duplicate issue.
IS THERE STILL NO SOLUTION FOR THIS PROBLEM. I DOWNLOADED JONDOE'S SAMPLE BUT IS DOES NOT WORK.
Hi Christian, this is a strongly asked enhancement request. Is this issue still on your list?
When this issue is so easy to fix why is there not yet a patch attached to this issue? cl->bh: yes it is on my very long list of very important issues but if no one gives us more developer resources it will stay on that list. it is not that easy to fix, it will take time that we currently don't have. the beauty of open source, you get blamed but not paid *sigh*
Hmph I'm a pastor I completely understand your frustration. I consider this very important but not letting it get in the way of using OpenOffice. Keep up the good work.
revnomad, if you need a music in your presentation, you understand why this issue have more than 200 votes and a lot of request since 2004! And pls, read comment of radams in Jan/05/2007. Best regards, Renato S. Yamane
Revnomad, It's not just about music. I teach an online urban geography course totally on the Internet. I want to post lectures on the course web site using Impress. In many instances, the natural flow of the verbal narrative spans multiple slides. In other instances, noises like car horns, jack hammers, and so on ought to span slides. In still other instances, the sounds should make a transition, say from jack hammer to bird chirping, as the lecture moves from the street to the park. I look forward to the day when I can not only completely customize the synchronization between different media but also convert the entire presentation to flash without losing any effects.
J'anime des stages en milieu associatif et cette option me fait cruellement défaut et m'empêche d'utiliser complétement Linux lors de ces stages.
I think it's about time that the higher-ups in OpenOffice's Development Department give this some serious thought. The fact that Impress is unable to play an mp3 file over multiple slides is one of the things that makes is less, well, impressive than PowerPoint. This issue has been up for over 3 years, and I think it's time that the OOo programmers actually LOOKED at this issue and did SOMETHING to resolve it.
Yes, I completely agree with Maximusx that it is time to "put out or shut up" about OOo being a complete replacement for other office suite programs. The run around that users have had to put up with is embarassing to say the least. How can any user promote a faulty product ? I have very little good to say to anyone about OOo !! (No)thanks for the program...Zrnk..
@znrk: IssueTracker is for serious comments, not for flames.
I just installed OOo 2.2. I would say that in OOo 1.1.4 that problem didn't exist. In fact it was easy, in a first step, to set 'nosound" and "a transition" for all slides and then , in a second step, set the desired music only for the first slide. After (or before) choose a slow transition for the first slide. Then click "read" to start one transition who starts also the music. A second click on the slide (or on read) DURING the sound holds the music up to the end. Then go to diaporama. This for Windows 98. May be I will go back to 1.1.4
@ka, I'm adding you as the project lead to this issue. @cgu: can you confirm as regression to 1.1.x ?
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I am curious as to why Issue 34517, which has been made a duplicate of this issue had a priority setting of 'P2'. I'd admit this is an enhancement (though it is one that Powerpoint has a basic feature) and that maybe(?) a P2 rating is pushing it. However, for those looking for an alternative to Microsoft Powerpoint, and who make use of features, this lack of being able to play a sound file over more than one side makes IMPRESS less of a choice in replacing Powerpoint. It also makes it harder to boast about the product when comparing it to Mircosoft. So while not a program 'bug', it is sure starting to bug me.
Open Office has been my choice for word processor and spreadsheet for a long time. Sadly, when I finally found the need to use its presentation tool, it totally failed. Impress got tossed for IrfanView because of this lack of functionality.
This is a big issue, expecially when importing a powerpoint document. I may lose a big part of the content of the document and be forced to search alternative software!
Hi all, IMHO, the feature is already present - Impress does indeed play sounds in presentations - but it doesn't work as expected - halts after 1st slide - so I see it as a bug. And a serious one, since it prevents one from migrating to OOo if presentations with sounds are a critical need. Happily for me, I don't need it, but I won't advocate Impress to other people because of this issue (though all the rest of the suite is great). I apologize for not being a programmer and indeed help instead of only complain. But I'd like to join the choir intending to show how important this fix is. Many thanks, Grillo
Indeed this is a bug. Sounds from slide transitions should play until the next slide that also has a sound set or has <stop previous sound> selected. Also the sound should loop if "Loop until next sound" is enabled. I fixed the user interface to actually do something with the "Loop until next sound". I added the property to the core, the api and fixed the slideshow module to support loop and not stop the sound if current slide has no sound. Still open is that loop does not work with the XPlayer, have to debug this. Also file format has to be added for the loop property.
Ideally, sounds should synchronize with slides in several different ways: (1) one sound per slide (as current), (2) sound continues until next slide with a sound or <stop previous sound>, (3) for a set time, (4) until an event (e.g., mouse click, specific transition type, etc.). The ability to add tracks and synchronize them with slides, ala Microsoft's Producer for PowerPoint, is what we really need. For example, on track could have music and another, narration. Export to Flash, and you have a real killer app.
Wonderful news that the bug is fixed. Now, how do us humble users get the fix ?? When I had my program check for new updates, none were available.
zrnk: it is not fixed. It is marked as STARTED. That means that someone is working on it. The target is currently set to 2.3. That means it is scheduled to appear in OpenOffice.org 2.3. Note that this is not a committment it is just planning.
changed the xml format that we redundantly export the slide transition and the sound inside the smil animations. This enabled me to use the repeatCount attribute of the audio element to store if the sound should loop. This will also be helpfull for future developments, f.e. synchronized audio. Currently playing a song over more than one slide works. The <stop previous sound> options seems not to be implemented, will look into this now. Looping of sounds does not work, maybe I need to write a follow up issue on this one as it is a problem inside the avmedia component. All interested, please stay tuned for 2.3 beta
reassign issue to me
cl: Why did you moved the issue from started to new ?
cl->pagalmes: I didn't, issuezilla did it after I reassigned this issue to myself Update: I submitted issue 78386 for the problem that looped sounds do not work.
cl: tricky software ;-)
now works as expected even with stop sound except the looping. Now SJ has to update the ppt im/export.
sj: now the ppt import/export is also supporting sound loop/stop for slide transitions..
what is the API for that?
I should think you could make at least a quick hack for this - the OO media player will play a music file throughout the whole show - it even has the option to repeat. Is it not possible to just work with the controls that are already there?
Pls, can someone edit "Issue 24969 depends on", inserting #78386? I don´t have permission to do that. Best regards, Renato
cl->hub: XDrawPage has the new boolean property "LoopSound" for looping sound. The old property "Sound" which stores the url for a slide transition sound can now also hold a boolean=true which indicates a stop sound. cl->renato: imho this issue does not depend on issue 78386. Playing sound over more than one slide works now, issue 78386 can be fixed at a later time, but should also be fixed for 2.3
cl->cgu: please verify
CGU: Verified in cws impress122
ne pas pouvoir intégrer un fichier son tout au long d'un diaporama manque cruellement depuis si longtemps. J 'aimerais vraiment que cet oubli soit corriger et je remercie l'équipe par avance. flechette
naturellement
Was decision of this issue included in OOo-dev? It doesn't work in 680m2. Or I'm not right? I insert sound on 1st slide and it plays only on 1st slide. Maybe, I must switch on some options?
Same as chkur, bug is still in OOG680_m2
J'espère que bug concernant le son sur diaporama va être corrigée . Quand une mise à jour va remédier cet retard devant PowerPoint ? Merci à toute l'équipe d'OpenOffice qui va faire diaporama pleinement fonctionnelle .
my fixes collided with some structural changes in the slideshow project. The file slideshow/source/engine/presentation.cxx was removed in m2 and replaced with slideshow/source/engine/slideshowimpl.cxx. I readded my already tested fix to the new file
fixed again and commited to cws impress130 for OOo 2.3
verified in cws, back to qa
And verified in cws impress 130
Quote: ------- Additional comments from cl Tue Sep 4 15:28:08 +0000 2007 ------- my fixes collided with some structural changes in the slideshow project. The file slideshow/source/engine/presentation.cxx was removed in m2 and replaced with slideshow/source/engine/slideshowimpl.cxx. I readded my already tested fix to the new file------- Additional comments from cl Tue Sep 4 15:31:13 +0000 2007 ------- fixed again and commited to cws impress130 for OOo 2.3------- Additional comments from cl Tue Sep 4 17:44:45 +0000 2007 ------- verified in cws, back to qa------- Additional comments from cgu Tue Sep 4 18:50:06 +0000 2007 ------- And verified in cws impress 130 End Quote. ladies and Gentlemen, as intellectually stimulating as this discussion of files being replaced and XML being edited and such... I am an IT nut. Programming lingo does not interest me. It leaves me with nothing more than a headache, so I really must ask, and I would prefer to have a straight answer: Has the problem been fixed for OpenOffice 2.3, Yes or No? that's all I want to know. Thank you.
This should be in the current RC builds for 2.3. They are available for you to test. Please download from http://download.openoffice.org/680/index.html?intcmp=1232
I'm glad this issue has finally been resolved, but I've checked the RC Release botes. I'm guessing that iVWXYZ (where v, w, x, y, and z are numbers) refers to a specific issue, but I don't see a little note marked "i24969" in the notes. am I missing something from the list, or is it due to be added later on?
impress130 OOo 2.3 show stopper bug fix. OOG680m4 Is the item that relates to this issue on the release notes page.
Am I right in assuming that while Issue # 24969 might have a STATUS of Verified and a RESOLUTION of FIXED, it hasn't been released as part of OOo 2.3 because it depends on Issue # 78386 which has as its TARGET MILESTONE OOo 2.4. If so, does that mean we have to wait to the next major release to see this DEFECT finally fixed and working?
no, this issue is fixed in 2.3. You just can't make the sound loop
cl, is there an open bug for making the sound loop?
[Off Topic] There are "work arounds" for sound not playing over more than 1 slide and for sound not looping. I'm still on OOo 2.2 and uses macros for this. My macros use 1by1 (Windows freeware) to play the sound, as this can run with no user interface, the ini file can be edited to loop the sound, and global hotkeys can be enabled so the sound can be paused and restarted (F8).
CGU: integrated in src680m229 and oog680m5
Fixed? But How do I insert a background music? I can't! Help
You must only assign a sound to a slide (in the slide transition dialog) The sound plays as long as you assign another sound to another slide.
How is this 'Closed' and 'Fixed'? And what's up with your latest comment: "You must only assign a sound to a slide (in the slide transition dialog) The sound plays as long as you assign another sound to another slide." Are you saying each slide only plays the associated sound? If so, then please re-read the Summary description: "[RFE] Presentation should play a sound file over more than one slide". Or does this mean that sound can span slides, as long as at least one other slide has a separate sound? If so, that's still screwy and still needs to be fixed.
Yes, Radam. The feature is implemented in OOo 2.3. But... - Opening a ppt/pps file with sound, Impress play the sound over more than one slide continuously: The powerpoint compatibility bug resolved. - Create a new presentation in Impress, assign a sound to a slide (in the slide transition dialog) and select Apply for all slides. Nevertheless isn't possible play the sound continuously in the slide sequence... the sound begin again after every slide.... bad, bad!!! Apparently the feature isn't implemented for the Impress interface.. but it's present, vide opening PPS/PPT files...
You are doing wrong! Don´t click in "Apply for all slides". This feature work very well in OOo 2.3 Regards, Renato S. Yamane
Oh, yes! You have reason! Discarding my commentaries.... The issue is Fixed.
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Where do I get the fix? I'm still having this problem, and updating doesn't seem to pick it up. Where is the download link for the fix? HELP!
@tj88: This is no help desk, so you should please discuss your problem in some user mailing list! How can we recommend a fix without any knowledge concerning your OOo, PC, OOo-version, PRESENTATION-document? Please feel free to file a new issue if result of discussion in user mailing list is that there really still something has to be fixed and if you can contribute required information. But before you do so please read our guidelines on <http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/pre_submission.html> and <http://www.openoffice.org/bugs/bug_writing_guidelines.html>.
tj88, This issue is fixed in OOo 2.3 Sound can be reproduced in more than 1 slide, BUT *loop* is not working. Loop problems can be checked here: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=78386> Regards, Renato